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> wish they'd just become a privacy-focused Chromium fork because These already exist, and Chromium is far from perfect. I'm glad there's a viable competitor.

tehbeard 5y ago
I'm not sure I'd classify it as viable with how Mozilla middle management has acted the last few years.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  It's at least technically viable for now
handrous 5y ago
Safari and, especially, its iOS monopoly (for the engine, at least) are the only thing keeping Google from dominating and nearly everyone from only testing against Chrome, now that MS switched to using Chrome's engine and IE is finally nearing the end even in the important niches where it had been hanging on. FF doesn't have enough "normies" using it, isn't the default anywhere, and its trend-line is heading the wrong direction.
buu700 5y ago
In my experience, Firefox actually has better performance than Chrome nowadays — particularly on Apple Silicon, where the difference is stark and dramatic. And with the new "Proton" interface, IMO Firefox finally looks at least as nice as Chrome out of the box. Firefox mobile still has some catching up to do on the overall UI/UX, but it's not too far off, and the fact that it allows extensions is nice.
- awoimbee 5y ago
  But chrome uses the GPU a lot more, thus making everything faster. Firefox right now is like Linux a few years back: better CPU performance but little to no GPU acceleration
  - coder543 5y ago
    > But chrome uses the GPU a lot more [citation needed] Firefox page rendering is GPU accelerated. It's called WebRender. Your information seems to be out of date. Article from 2017 when WebRender was still being prepared for release: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-fps-how-webrender-gets-rid-of-jank/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-f... Current platform support list, which seems to be "almost everyone": https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/WebRender_Where https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/WebRender_Where
- mu_ddib 5y ago
  this is interesting - i've had the opposite experience on both x86 and ARM Macs to the extent that it's not really a viable browser for me :/ purely anecdotal of course, and i haven't found a lot of information supporting my experience...

tehbeard 5y ago

I'm not sure I'd classify it as viable with how Mozilla middle management has acted the last few years.

nicoburns 5y ago
It's at least technically viable for now

handrous 5y ago

Safari and, especially, its iOS monopoly (for the engine, at least) are the only thing keeping Google from dominating and nearly everyone from only testing against Chrome, now that MS switched to using Chrome's engine and IE is finally nearing the end even in the important niches where it had been hanging on. FF doesn't have enough "normies" using it, isn't the default anywhere, and its trend-line is heading the wrong direction.

buu700 5y ago

In my experience, Firefox actually has better performance than Chrome nowadays — particularly on Apple Silicon, where the difference is stark and dramatic. And with the new "Proton" interface, IMO Firefox finally looks at least as nice as Chrome out of the box. Firefox mobile still has some catching up to do on the overall UI/UX, but it's not too far off, and the fact that it allows extensions is nice.

awoimbee 5y ago
But chrome uses the GPU a lot more, thus making everything faster. Firefox right now is like Linux a few years back: better CPU performance but little to no GPU acceleration
- coder543 5y ago
  > But chrome uses the GPU a lot more [citation needed] Firefox page rendering is GPU accelerated. It's called WebRender. Your information seems to be out of date. Article from 2017 when WebRender was still being prepared for release: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-fps-how-webrender-gets-rid-of-jank/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-f... Current platform support list, which seems to be "almost everyone": https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/WebRender_Where https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/WebRender_Where
mu_ddib 5y ago
this is interesting - i've had the opposite experience on both x86 and ARM Macs to the extent that it's not really a viable browser for me :/ purely anecdotal of course, and i haven't found a lot of information supporting my experience...