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> The promise of suborbital tourism is that it could expand space access to many, many more people. Sure. I mean the 0.0001%ers. Yay for them. So while they'r

> The promise of suborbital tourism is that it could expand space access to many, many more people. Sure. I mean the 0.0001%ers. Yay for them. So while they're slapping each others' backs, there are people who are just trying to do their best to feed their family. These "accomplishments" mean nothing to them. And this billionaire worshiping really needs to just end. It's so pathetic.

knubie 5y ago
They same could be said about almost any new technology. Telephones were at one point only available to the ultra wealthy.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  The comparison is very apt. Everyone will have their private pocket rocket in a few decades.
  - dwaltrip 5y ago
    You are being a bit myopic :) There are many ways seemingly unrelated technologies can enable new developments. For example, without orbital rockets, smartphone navigation wouldn’t exist, as we wouldn’t have GPS.
  - cnlevy 5y ago
    There will be spaceline companies transporting people by rocket. See Starship E2E https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzqE-ultsWt0&ved=2ahUKEwjM77b_3-HxAhXXgP0HHa2wB18QtwJ6BAgDEAI&usg=AOvVaw2P0FKPWchhxGDBPui8XWAh https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/... https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/dsppi6/a_question_about_starship_e2e/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/dsppi6/a_ques...
Tenoke 5y ago
Yeah, further we should've stopped making planes or smartphones early on, too since only the rich could afford them.
- qayxc 5y ago
  I think you are missing an important distinction here: when the first planes got commercialised, even the first passenger flights weren't just amusement rides. They were expensive, sure, but they served a legit purpose. The same is true to an even greater degree for mobile phones. Joy rides to the edge of space however are neither new (Dennis Tito went all the way to the ISS back in 2001 and jet planes to the upper stratosphere could be booked for decades as well) nor in any way pushing progress. Nonsense like this doesn't have to be stopped - everyone's free to spend their money however they wish - it's the glorification of the ultra-rich and their playthings (especially in the face of pending global ecological and social collapse) that's is being criticized.
  - dwaltrip 5y ago
    Brandson’s flights, once available to the public, will cost ~$200k, not $20m like flights to the ISS have costed in the past. A 100x decrease in cost is a pretty meaningful change. What is your basis for claiming that these developments will have no useful secondary or tertiary spillover effects for society? Many space developments have created new technologies that are useful back on the surface.
neither_color 5y ago
People have been protesting space launches since the Apollo programs. It really adds nothing to the discussion to say “but other people have x problems.” We know. If it was necessary for 100% of humanity to be on equal footing in order for technology to progress we’d still be living in the stone age. I. Don’t. Care. Space is cool.
- comeonseriously 5y ago
  > I. Don’t. Care. Noted.
- NoOneNew 5y ago
  I think you missed the point of that commenter's rant, understandably though. A majority of people (these days) see the benefit for a wide spectrum of folks this modern space race is producing. What no one gives a shit about is the ego driven, "I was first" billionaire crap that the media is focused on. It's like people who post, "first" on youtube videos. Sure, helps the video's algorithm stance a bit, but a useless attempt to feel important over something silly is annoying as hell.
arkitaip 5y ago
Billionaire worship is indeed pathetic but these nuckleheads literally drive down costs so the rest of us knuckleheads can do a miserable family subby during the long summer years when Earth is scorching hot - literally on fire - due to climate change.
alephu5 5y ago
I'm not saying we shouldn't have any space programs, but given the urgency of climate change who in their right mind thinks space tourism for the masses is a good idea?
- rbanffy 5y ago
  At these prices, it really doesn't make much of a difference.
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knubie 5y ago

They same could be said about almost any new technology. Telephones were at one point only available to the ultra wealthy.

ASalazarMX 5y ago
The comparison is very apt. Everyone will have their private pocket rocket in a few decades.
- dwaltrip 5y ago
  You are being a bit myopic :) There are many ways seemingly unrelated technologies can enable new developments. For example, without orbital rockets, smartphone navigation wouldn’t exist, as we wouldn’t have GPS.
- cnlevy 5y ago
  There will be spaceline companies transporting people by rocket. See Starship E2E https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzqE-ultsWt0&ved=2ahUKEwjM77b_3-HxAhXXgP0HHa2wB18QtwJ6BAgDEAI&usg=AOvVaw2P0FKPWchhxGDBPui8XWAh https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/... https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/dsppi6/a_question_about_starship_e2e/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/dsppi6/a_ques...

Tenoke 5y ago

Yeah, further we should've stopped making planes or smartphones early on, too since only the rich could afford them.

qayxc 5y ago
I think you are missing an important distinction here: when the first planes got commercialised, even the first passenger flights weren't just amusement rides. They were expensive, sure, but they served a legit purpose. The same is true to an even greater degree for mobile phones. Joy rides to the edge of space however are neither new (Dennis Tito went all the way to the ISS back in 2001 and jet planes to the upper stratosphere could be booked for decades as well) nor in any way pushing progress. Nonsense like this doesn't have to be stopped - everyone's free to spend their money however they wish - it's the glorification of the ultra-rich and their playthings (especially in the face of pending global ecological and social collapse) that's is being criticized.
- dwaltrip 5y ago
  Brandson’s flights, once available to the public, will cost ~$200k, not $20m like flights to the ISS have costed in the past. A 100x decrease in cost is a pretty meaningful change. What is your basis for claiming that these developments will have no useful secondary or tertiary spillover effects for society? Many space developments have created new technologies that are useful back on the surface.

neither_color 5y ago

People have been protesting space launches since the Apollo programs. It really adds nothing to the discussion to say “but other people have x problems.” We know. If it was necessary for 100% of humanity to be on equal footing in order for technology to progress we’d still be living in the stone age. I. Don’t. Care. Space is cool.

comeonseriously 5y ago
> I. Don’t. Care. Noted.
NoOneNew 5y ago
I think you missed the point of that commenter's rant, understandably though. A majority of people (these days) see the benefit for a wide spectrum of folks this modern space race is producing. What no one gives a shit about is the ego driven, "I was first" billionaire crap that the media is focused on. It's like people who post, "first" on youtube videos. Sure, helps the video's algorithm stance a bit, but a useless attempt to feel important over something silly is annoying as hell.

arkitaip 5y ago

Billionaire worship is indeed pathetic but these nuckleheads literally drive down costs so the rest of us knuckleheads can do a miserable family subby during the long summer years when Earth is scorching hot - literally on fire - due to climate change.

alephu5 5y ago

I'm not saying we shouldn't have any space programs, but given the urgency of climate change who in their right mind thinks space tourism for the masses is a good idea?

rbanffy 5y ago
At these prices, it really doesn't make much of a difference.

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