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Well here's some data to counter the anecdotes: - 80%+ of Americans agree that there needs to be Data Privacy legislation controlling big tech https://epic.org

Well here's some data to counter the anecdotes: - 80%+ of Americans agree that there needs to be Data Privacy legislation controlling big tech https://epic.org/privacy/survey/ https://epic.org/privacy/survey/ - Americans are rather in favor of breaking up big tech and popular anti-trust action continues https://www.filesforprogress.org/datasets/2021/1/dfp_vox_tech_polling.pdf https://www.filesforprogress.org/datasets/2021/1/dfp_vox_tec... - Apple has pivoted their iPhone advertising strategy to promote privacy against Big Tech (lol) as their #1 selling point

avereveard 5y ago
> This poll was conducted between April 16-April 19, 2021 among a sample of 1992 Registered Voters 80% on an online positive-assertive survey ran on population that small it's a completely bogus statistic. heck I can't even fathom how people would cite this, the methodological note is three lines, doesn't tell how the participants were selected, say votes were weighted but doesn't say the weights nor the weighted parameters; they have like 72 pages of demographics, probably a couple person for each, and say the error margin is 2%
- criley2 5y ago
  I apologize that my well-sourced comment, the only comment in this thread with any sourcing at all, did not sufficiently meet your quality standards. I note with amusement that you did not post this same comment in response to every other reply which included no sources at all. I suppose one only thinks critically when they disagree.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    I checked the second link. Almost no one is actually independent. I am on mobile and don’t feel like doing the citation for this. But that’s one issue immediately with that one. Almost everyone votes one way for senators and president. The phrasing of the question and prompting of it plays a huge part too. Including Trump’s name at all is huge. It makes it an immediate reactionary political question. Swap Trump for something on the left and you’ll likely get different results. Even without Trump. The prompting is worded the way it is. It’s so political it’s going to skew anything and everything. For the first one. Your description just sounds reasonable. Why would you say no to general regulation against big tech? Besides not wanting to be a hypocrite if you’re on the right (which clearly shows a ton of them are fine being hypocrites with that 80% figure). Change regulation to oil companies or manufacturing and suddenly those centrists and people on the right won’t be polling the same way. Which again means this is more political than any actual knowledge of the situation. People don’t know or understand online privacy by and large. It’s such an obvious take. To argue against it with credible sources that don’t actually relate much to the topic shows how far out your thinking is. There will never be agreement because you’re not even thinking about this in the same way.
  - ses1984 5y ago
    Answering yes on a poll about privacy legislation doesn’t mean that people think about it in their day to day life or make behavior changes. Look no further than annual reports of companies like Facebook and Twitter for proof of their success.

avereveard 5y ago

> This poll was conducted between April 16-April 19, 2021 among a sample of 1992 Registered Voters 80% on an online positive-assertive survey ran on population that small it's a completely bogus statistic. heck I can't even fathom how people would cite this, the methodological note is three lines, doesn't tell how the participants were selected, say votes were weighted but doesn't say the weights nor the weighted parameters; they have like 72 pages of demographics, probably a couple person for each, and say the error margin is 2%

criley2 5y ago
I apologize that my well-sourced comment, the only comment in this thread with any sourcing at all, did not sufficiently meet your quality standards. I note with amusement that you did not post this same comment in response to every other reply which included no sources at all. I suppose one only thinks critically when they disagree.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  I checked the second link. Almost no one is actually independent. I am on mobile and don’t feel like doing the citation for this. But that’s one issue immediately with that one. Almost everyone votes one way for senators and president. The phrasing of the question and prompting of it plays a huge part too. Including Trump’s name at all is huge. It makes it an immediate reactionary political question. Swap Trump for something on the left and you’ll likely get different results. Even without Trump. The prompting is worded the way it is. It’s so political it’s going to skew anything and everything. For the first one. Your description just sounds reasonable. Why would you say no to general regulation against big tech? Besides not wanting to be a hypocrite if you’re on the right (which clearly shows a ton of them are fine being hypocrites with that 80% figure). Change regulation to oil companies or manufacturing and suddenly those centrists and people on the right won’t be polling the same way. Which again means this is more political than any actual knowledge of the situation. People don’t know or understand online privacy by and large. It’s such an obvious take. To argue against it with credible sources that don’t actually relate much to the topic shows how far out your thinking is. There will never be agreement because you’re not even thinking about this in the same way.
- ses1984 5y ago
  Answering yes on a poll about privacy legislation doesn’t mean that people think about it in their day to day life or make behavior changes. Look no further than annual reports of companies like Facebook and Twitter for proof of their success.