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> the vaccines are effective against Delta, but seemingly only barely so What data are you looking at? Even the waist pessimistic data - Israel - shows the va

• mikepurvis 5y ago
  Fair fair, yeah perhaps "barely" is excessively dramatic— this is mostly just going from coverage like that in the Atlantic piece: > But even against Delta, full vaccination—with a heavy emphasis on full—is effective. Two doses of Pfizer’s vaccine are still 88 percent effective at preventing symptomatic Delta infections, according to a U.K. study, and 96 percent effective at preventing hospitalization. (A single dose, however, is only 33 percent effective at stopping symptomatic infection.) It's the "still" in there— basically that Pfizer effectiveness was 95% against OG COVID, and now thankfully it's "still" 88% against delta, but much lower than that and we're back to a place where the vaccine alone is not enough, it would only be able to work in conjunction with other measures like limiting contact.