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Sorry, this is 2021. Your 'anti-Russian' propaganda narrative was expired about 5 years ago.

morpheos137 5y ago
Regardless whether Russia did any of the outlandish things that the UK accuses it of, what business does the UK have picking a fight with Russia or anybody else? I think it comes down to nostalgia for the days of the British Empire. Second it is deeply concerning that a trade orginisation like IEEE would wade into political affairs and write a puff piece on Bellingcat who is obviously a creature of the UK intelligence establishment.
- comice 5y ago
  > it is deeply concerning that a trade orginisation like IEEE would wade into political affairs and write a puff piece on Bellingcat who is obviously a creature of the UK intelligence establishment. yes, this is the critical point. me and "thrwway34" can argue about the trustworthiness of bellingcat, but IEEE has clearly picked a side.
  - thrwway34 5y ago
    Hey, don't move the goalposts. I'm not arguing about their trustworthiness, I'm pointing out that your propaganda is stale.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > Regardless whether Russia did any of the outlandish things that the UK accuses it of, what business does the UK have picking a fight with Russia or anybody else? Wasn't one of those "outlandish things" trying to assassinate a naturalized UK citizen in UK territory and causing one collateral death and several other collateral non-fatal poisonings of other British citizens? And wasn't the poison used so obviously Russian that it turned up in another attempted assassination of a Russian dissident that occurred in Russian territory? And the dudes that were identified as responsible from security footage turned out to be the same dudes involved in blowing up a Czech ammunition depot that contained arms manufactured by a Bulgarian that the Russian government has a beef with? That's not the UK "picking a fight," and seems enough reason to convince any reasonable person that UK involvement is justified.
  - morpheos137 5y ago
    Where are the Skripals? Did MI6 bury them to cover for Crossfire Hurricane or connected stuff? There has been no proof of life in years. Readers should see former Ambassador Craig Murray for another take on the Skripal affair. Meanwhile Bill Browder who is supposedly hunted by Putin is unscathed after years. So MI6 cannot protect a former spy and his daughter but they can a protect business man who regularly appears in public. https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2007/S00048/were-the-skripals-secretly-executed-by-britains-government.htm https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2007/S00048/were-the-skrip...

Regardless whether Russia did any of the outlandish things that the UK accuses it of, what business does the UK have picking a fight with Russia or anybody else? I think it comes down to nostalgia for the days of the British Empire. Second it is deeply concerning that a trade orginisation like IEEE would wade into political affairs and write a puff piece on Bellingcat who is obviously a creature of the UK intelligence establishment.

comice 5y ago
> it is deeply concerning that a trade orginisation like IEEE would wade into political affairs and write a puff piece on Bellingcat who is obviously a creature of the UK intelligence establishment. yes, this is the critical point. me and "thrwway34" can argue about the trustworthiness of bellingcat, but IEEE has clearly picked a side.
- thrwway34 5y ago
  Hey, don't move the goalposts. I'm not arguing about their trustworthiness, I'm pointing out that your propaganda is stale.
tablespoon 5y ago
> Regardless whether Russia did any of the outlandish things that the UK accuses it of, what business does the UK have picking a fight with Russia or anybody else? Wasn't one of those "outlandish things" trying to assassinate a naturalized UK citizen in UK territory and causing one collateral death and several other collateral non-fatal poisonings of other British citizens? And wasn't the poison used so obviously Russian that it turned up in another attempted assassination of a Russian dissident that occurred in Russian territory? And the dudes that were identified as responsible from security footage turned out to be the same dudes involved in blowing up a Czech ammunition depot that contained arms manufactured by a Bulgarian that the Russian government has a beef with? That's not the UK "picking a fight," and seems enough reason to convince any reasonable person that UK involvement is justified.
- morpheos137 5y ago
  Where are the Skripals? Did MI6 bury them to cover for Crossfire Hurricane or connected stuff? There has been no proof of life in years. Readers should see former Ambassador Craig Murray for another take on the Skripal affair. Meanwhile Bill Browder who is supposedly hunted by Putin is unscathed after years. So MI6 cannot protect a former spy and his daughter but they can a protect business man who regularly appears in public. https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2007/S00048/were-the-skripals-secretly-executed-by-britains-government.htm https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2007/S00048/were-the-skrip...