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Yeah was about to say the same. In my life the only occasions that I got good sleep were due to exhaustion. But in today's world it's kind of difficult to reach

Yeah was about to say the same. In my life the only occasions that I got good sleep were due to exhaustion. But in today's world it's kind of difficult to reach that point physically. I got knee and ankle issues from overweight so the only feasible solution to reach exhaustion is swimming.

unmole 5y ago
Or rowing?
- markus_zhang 5y ago
  Yeah rowing and cycling also works to some extent. Rowing seems to be a little better but I can still feel the drag on my knees. I'm in the middle of reducing 20-30lbs and see if it helps.
  - throw1234651234 5y ago
    Glucosamine supplements have enough data for doctors to say "might work, won't hurt". Chinese martial arts guys recommend eating chicken cartilage. Look into "continuous passive motion" for joint repair. If you aren't in pain from walking - walk, walk a lot. Otherwise, back to CPM. Diet to reduce inflammation, or cartilage can't repair itself. Correct postural imbalances. Look into tight hip flexors / weak glutes to take pressure off of knees. Rant, but might be useful, I looked into this stuff a lot.
    - markus_zhang 5y ago
      Thanks. I'll look into it, the first line is especially interesting but I'll have to double check. I do get pain after walking for say more than an hour so I'll refrain from that. I'll do a check to make sure it's not gout. Thanks again for the tips!
goda90 5y ago
Weight lifting might help, since it doesn't have to include your body weight. I remember being an unfit, overweight teenager who would stay up late on the computer. One summer my brother was home from college and we would go weight lift at the public gym in our civic center at 9 PM. I would end up asleep by 10:30, which was very unusual for me.
- markus_zhang 5y ago
  Thanks, yeah I'm also doing that a bit since I just started. My knees don't feel it because it's mostly dumbbells within 25 lbs. I heard that to lose weight it's best to combine cardio (which I can't do much) and weight lifting.
  - prirun 5y ago
    Best way to lose weight IMO is to restrict eating to an 8 hour (or less) window, eliminate carbs (sugar, bread, grains, beans, potatoes) and reduce fat intake so your body has to burn the fat you already have. After you have lost the weight, increase fat intake to get enough calories. You can go back to carbs after losing weight, but be mindful that they will cause insulin fluctuations that might give you cravings. If you can't manage the cravings, cut back again on the carbs.
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LanceH 5y ago
Best sleep I had was on board ship. I think it was a matter of sleeping in a sleeping back in cot on a rocking ship that really did it. This was followed by 2 weeks of full blown insomnia after I got ashore where I experienced little to no sleep (max 1 hour a day) until it just went away. Maybe I just need to be exhausted, at sea and miserable all day long so I can sleep well.

unmole 5y ago

Or rowing?

markus_zhang 5y ago
Yeah rowing and cycling also works to some extent. Rowing seems to be a little better but I can still feel the drag on my knees. I'm in the middle of reducing 20-30lbs and see if it helps.
- throw1234651234 5y ago
  Glucosamine supplements have enough data for doctors to say "might work, won't hurt". Chinese martial arts guys recommend eating chicken cartilage. Look into "continuous passive motion" for joint repair. If you aren't in pain from walking - walk, walk a lot. Otherwise, back to CPM. Diet to reduce inflammation, or cartilage can't repair itself. Correct postural imbalances. Look into tight hip flexors / weak glutes to take pressure off of knees. Rant, but might be useful, I looked into this stuff a lot.
  - markus_zhang 5y ago
    Thanks. I'll look into it, the first line is especially interesting but I'll have to double check. I do get pain after walking for say more than an hour so I'll refrain from that. I'll do a check to make sure it's not gout. Thanks again for the tips!

goda90 5y ago

Weight lifting might help, since it doesn't have to include your body weight. I remember being an unfit, overweight teenager who would stay up late on the computer. One summer my brother was home from college and we would go weight lift at the public gym in our civic center at 9 PM. I would end up asleep by 10:30, which was very unusual for me.

markus_zhang 5y ago
Thanks, yeah I'm also doing that a bit since I just started. My knees don't feel it because it's mostly dumbbells within 25 lbs. I heard that to lose weight it's best to combine cardio (which I can't do much) and weight lifting.
- prirun 5y ago
  Best way to lose weight IMO is to restrict eating to an 8 hour (or less) window, eliminate carbs (sugar, bread, grains, beans, potatoes) and reduce fat intake so your body has to burn the fat you already have. After you have lost the weight, increase fat intake to get enough calories. You can go back to carbs after losing weight, but be mindful that they will cause insulin fluctuations that might give you cravings. If you can't manage the cravings, cut back again on the carbs.

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LanceH 5y ago

Best sleep I had was on board ship. I think it was a matter of sleeping in a sleeping back in cot on a rocking ship that really did it. This was followed by 2 weeks of full blown insomnia after I got ashore where I experienced little to no sleep (max 1 hour a day) until it just went away. Maybe I just need to be exhausted, at sea and miserable all day long so I can sleep well.