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> lower sleep quality, physically damaging in the long run Well, 50 years of alcohol doesn't seem to have caused any problems for me. > I never had a good ni

> lower sleep quality, physically damaging in the long run Well, 50 years of alcohol doesn't seem to have caused any problems for me. > I never had a good night of sleep after consuming alcohol, even as little as a 0.5L beer is enough to disturb my ability to sleep. Not so for me. Not everyone is the same.

lm28469 5y ago
> Well, 50 years of alcohol doesn't seem to have caused any problems for me. Do you have an identical non drinking twin to compare ? Unless you have a genetic condition or are a literal alcoholic experiencing withdrawal symptoms I doubt sleep quality increase with any amount of alcohol, I have never seen any study remotely close to hinting that
- zabzonk 5y ago
  > Do you have an identical non drinking to compare ? Do you have an identical drinking (I suppose you mean "person" here, but who knows) to compare (I suppose you mean "to") here? > I doubt sleep quality increase with any amount of alcohol Well, in my experience it "increases".
  - lm28469 5y ago
    The entirety of health/sleep<>alcohol scientific data support my point so you do you... I feel stronger and sexier when I drink, it doesn't make it a scientific fact
    - zabzonk 5y ago
      > I feel stronger and sexier when I drink Well, that is a bit sad - I don't. Perhaps, just perhaps, alcohol affects different people in different ways, like all other drugs?
blowski 5y ago
Well the answer to your original question is "most people sleep worse, live worse lives, and die earlier if they frequently get drunk." Even if you're somehow different, you're an edge case. Either way, your comment reads like that of a teenager trying to be edgy and not that of a mature adult.
- zabzonk 5y ago
  I'm a 67 year-old adult. And I don't think I'm an edge case. Most of the adults I know in the UK drink a lot. How old are you, may I ask?
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  - ColinWright 5y ago
    I'm in the UK, and most of the adults I know drink very, very little, and many drink no alcohol at all. You obviously move in different circles. And the grandparent comment said: >> ... your comment reads like that of a teenager trying to be edgy and not that of a mature adult. It doesn't matter that you're 67 ... your comment still sounds like that of a teenager trying to be edgy. You might, of course, regard that as a compliment -- in a sense you're staying young at heart and in attitude.
    - zabzonk 5y ago
      > You obviously move in different circles Being an adult, I think I probably do. When was the last time you went into a pub, Covid allowing? > your comment still sounds like that of a teenager trying to be edgy Well I bow to your teenager observational expertise. Did you happen to notice any slight drunkenness on Sunday, perhaps?
      - ColinWright 5y ago
        I'm a 60-year-old adult, and I work with teenagers in education. So I have experience of teenagers. I'm a director of a company that produces equipment that does the maritime equivalent of Air Traffic Control, so I have experience of both civilian and military adults. And most of the adults I know drink very little, including this last Sunday. Most people I know have decided that getting drunk is less fun than staying sober. As I say, we clearly move in different circles. I'm not denying your experience, I'm just providing balance.

lm28469 5y ago

> Well, 50 years of alcohol doesn't seem to have caused any problems for me. Do you have an identical non drinking twin to compare ? Unless you have a genetic condition or are a literal alcoholic experiencing withdrawal symptoms I doubt sleep quality increase with any amount of alcohol, I have never seen any study remotely close to hinting that

zabzonk 5y ago
> Do you have an identical non drinking to compare ? Do you have an identical drinking (I suppose you mean "person" here, but who knows) to compare (I suppose you mean "to") here? > I doubt sleep quality increase with any amount of alcohol Well, in my experience it "increases".
- lm28469 5y ago
  The entirety of health/sleep<>alcohol scientific data support my point so you do you... I feel stronger and sexier when I drink, it doesn't make it a scientific fact
  - zabzonk 5y ago
    > I feel stronger and sexier when I drink Well, that is a bit sad - I don't. Perhaps, just perhaps, alcohol affects different people in different ways, like all other drugs?

blowski 5y ago

Well the answer to your original question is "most people sleep worse, live worse lives, and die earlier if they frequently get drunk." Even if you're somehow different, you're an edge case. Either way, your comment reads like that of a teenager trying to be edgy and not that of a mature adult.

zabzonk 5y ago
I'm a 67 year-old adult. And I don't think I'm an edge case. Most of the adults I know in the UK drink a lot. How old are you, may I ask?
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- ColinWright 5y ago
  I'm in the UK, and most of the adults I know drink very, very little, and many drink no alcohol at all. You obviously move in different circles. And the grandparent comment said: >> ... your comment reads like that of a teenager trying to be edgy and not that of a mature adult. It doesn't matter that you're 67 ... your comment still sounds like that of a teenager trying to be edgy. You might, of course, regard that as a compliment -- in a sense you're staying young at heart and in attitude.
  - zabzonk 5y ago
    > You obviously move in different circles Being an adult, I think I probably do. When was the last time you went into a pub, Covid allowing? > your comment still sounds like that of a teenager trying to be edgy Well I bow to your teenager observational expertise. Did you happen to notice any slight drunkenness on Sunday, perhaps?
    - ColinWright 5y ago
      I'm a 60-year-old adult, and I work with teenagers in education. So I have experience of teenagers. I'm a director of a company that produces equipment that does the maritime equivalent of Air Traffic Control, so I have experience of both civilian and military adults. And most of the adults I know drink very little, including this last Sunday. Most people I know have decided that getting drunk is less fun than staying sober. As I say, we clearly move in different circles. I'm not denying your experience, I'm just providing balance.