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The Netherlands has a decent vaccination rate (38.5% fully vaccinated, something like 66% has received their first shot). The delta variant is wreaking havoc he

The Netherlands has a decent vaccination rate (38.5% fully vaccinated, something like 66% has received their first shot). The delta variant is wreaking havoc here. The number of cases went from 500 to 10 000 in 3 weeks... Yes this coincided with very poor decision making on the government side (deciding to open all clubs/bars for people who had a negative tests), but still something to be taken serious. So far the # of hospitalizations have stayed low, but if the delta variant continues to spread through groups of people who have been reluctant to vaccinate, this might change.

fredros 5y ago
> wreaking havoc VS > the # of hospitalizations have stayed low Who shall I believe?
- tremon 5y ago
  Check back in a week ;) The spike in cases is very recent, most hospitalizations occur between 3-10 days of onset. [1] reports 31 hospitalizations yesterday (preliminary), a 3-fold increase over last-week's average. [1] https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/ziekenhuis-opnames https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/ziekenhui...
  - fredros 5y ago
    5 deaths yesterday, for reference.
- cr1895 5y ago
  I would consider the abrupt cancellation of all festivals that had merely weeks ago been granted permission by the government to go ahead, as well as yet another imposed restriction on horeca to be wreaking havoc. What will likely come soon is reimposed restrictions on Dutch travelers by other European countries, just as people had been given the go ahead. The government’s test-for-entry system has also shown itself to be problematic. It is fantastically disruptive. “Wreaking havoc” is certainly accurate.
throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
And doesn't the delta variant break through the first shot immunity (after a few weeks) but 2nd dose provides durable immunity. And parts of the use (including my county) have >70% of 2 doses. (parts of) the US are in a completely different place vaccine wise compared to most of europe.

fredros 5y ago

> wreaking havoc VS > the # of hospitalizations have stayed low Who shall I believe?

tremon 5y ago
Check back in a week ;) The spike in cases is very recent, most hospitalizations occur between 3-10 days of onset. [1] reports 31 hospitalizations yesterday (preliminary), a 3-fold increase over last-week's average. [1] https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/ziekenhuis-opnames https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/ziekenhui...
- fredros 5y ago
  5 deaths yesterday, for reference.
cr1895 5y ago
I would consider the abrupt cancellation of all festivals that had merely weeks ago been granted permission by the government to go ahead, as well as yet another imposed restriction on horeca to be wreaking havoc. What will likely come soon is reimposed restrictions on Dutch travelers by other European countries, just as people had been given the go ahead. The government’s test-for-entry system has also shown itself to be problematic. It is fantastically disruptive. “Wreaking havoc” is certainly accurate.

throw_nbvc1234 5y ago

And doesn't the delta variant break through the first shot immunity (after a few weeks) but 2nd dose provides durable immunity. And parts of the use (including my county) have >70% of 2 doses. (parts of) the US are in a completely different place vaccine wise compared to most of europe.