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I don't feel any love for main stream media, but it's super nice to see a big fine to the IMO crappy company Google that clearly deserves it. Google is bad for

I don't feel any love for main stream media, but it's super nice to see a big fine to the IMO crappy company Google that clearly deserves it. Google is bad for business in Europe.

chrisseaton 5y ago
> Google is bad for business in Europe. If they really think that why not just ask it to leave entirely? Or might as well keep fining until they go and then you’ll get their money and get them to leave.
- ecmascript 5y ago
  > If they really think that why not just ask it to leave entirely? I don't think that the french authorities think that, it is just my personal opinion. But it is good that at least some european authorities starts to kick back on their anti-competitive behavior.
- jeltz 5y ago
  Because the EU is pro free trade? They just want everyone to follow the same laws which US tech giants often refuse to do.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    > Because the EU is pro free trade? I thought the EU was famously protectionist? Let's be honest - part of the reason France doesn't like Google is because it's American. There's a jealous and xenophobic aspect to this story.
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    - Bayart 5y ago
      "Americanophobia", or whatever you'd call it, isn't real in France. It doesn't exist. People hate Google because it's arrogant, sleazy, utterly contemptuous of the law - not because it's American. It's still behind companies like Über or Amazon, though.
      - chrisseaton 5y ago
        Obviously not all French people are anti-American, and paradoxically the French love McDonalds, but it certainly exists. Here's the research and the context on why it's like that: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/meuniercesnewsletter0105_0.pdf https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/meunierces... > France is the country with the deepest, most sedimented reservoir of anti-American arguments. This is an example of what the author calls '“Sovereignist” anti-Americanism'.
        Bayart 5y ago
        I have to dispute that qualifier. The French school of strategic thinking, which I think really is, or should be, the subject of the paper is only anti-American insofar as America is the dominant power. It's anti-Russian in a context where Russian is the dominant power, or anti-Chinese, or anti-Maltese and so on. If you go to the roots of it, you'd see it's really anti-Hapsburgian originally. Other points are minor, not really worth considering and within the normal variance of interactions between cultures. It's not any worse than how French people consider say the English or the Italian, probably better.

I don't feel any love for main stream media, but it's super nice to see a big fine to the IMO crappy company Google that clearly deserves it. Google is bad for business in Europe.

chrisseaton 5y ago

> Google is bad for business in Europe. If they really think that why not just ask it to leave entirely? Or might as well keep fining until they go and then you’ll get their money and get them to leave.

ecmascript 5y ago
> If they really think that why not just ask it to leave entirely? I don't think that the french authorities think that, it is just my personal opinion. But it is good that at least some european authorities starts to kick back on their anti-competitive behavior.
jeltz 5y ago
Because the EU is pro free trade? They just want everyone to follow the same laws which US tech giants often refuse to do.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > Because the EU is pro free trade? I thought the EU was famously protectionist? Let's be honest - part of the reason France doesn't like Google is because it's American. There's a jealous and xenophobic aspect to this story.
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  - Bayart 5y ago
    "Americanophobia", or whatever you'd call it, isn't real in France. It doesn't exist. People hate Google because it's arrogant, sleazy, utterly contemptuous of the law - not because it's American. It's still behind companies like Über or Amazon, though.
    - chrisseaton 5y ago
      Obviously not all French people are anti-American, and paradoxically the French love McDonalds, but it certainly exists. Here's the research and the context on why it's like that: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/meuniercesnewsletter0105_0.pdf https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/meunierces... > France is the country with the deepest, most sedimented reservoir of anti-American arguments. This is an example of what the author calls '“Sovereignist” anti-Americanism'.
      - Bayart 5y ago
        I have to dispute that qualifier. The French school of strategic thinking, which I think really is, or should be, the subject of the paper is only anti-American insofar as America is the dominant power. It's anti-Russian in a context where Russian is the dominant power, or anti-Chinese, or anti-Maltese and so on. If you go to the roots of it, you'd see it's really anti-Hapsburgian originally. Other points are minor, not really worth considering and within the normal variance of interactions between cultures. It's not any worse than how French people consider say the English or the Italian, probably better.