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>(Honestly I don't really believe in copyrighting news facts, but at this point it's just nice to see Google get fined.) It's disturbing to see how people supp

by Tenoke 5y ago

>(Honestly I don't really believe in copyrighting news facts, but at this point it's just nice to see Google get fined.) It's disturbing to see how people support bad practices just because they are used against Google. Do you hate Google THAT much that nothing matters if they are hurt?

Y_Y 5y ago
I don't hate Google at all. I don't think it would be controversial to say that they seem to have a lot of power relative to the legislatures of the countries they operate in, and it seems like they are able to skirt laws regarding e.g. anti-competitive behaviour, data protection, consumer rights. I don't like the law that they are alleged to have violated here, but I am glad to see proof that it is possible that action is taken against them if they do violate whatever laws they should operate under.
- tpush 5y ago
  > [...] but I am glad to see proof that it is possible that action is taken against them if they do violate whatever laws they should operate under. I don't think that was ever in question?
ecmascript 5y ago
> Do you hate Google THAT much that nothing matters if they are hurt? Pretty much as long as it's not completely unreasonable. Bad practices are used by american mega corporations all the time, it is nice to see them get a dose of their own medicine.
brnt 5y ago
Google does not get to decide the judicial reality in France. Or anywhere. Maybe in the US?
josefx 5y ago
Copyright applies to all equally, maybe we will finally get some lobbying to change it if it hurts billion dollar companies enough. Until then they can suffer under it the same way everyone else does.
onion2k 5y ago
Do you hate Google THAT much that nothing matters if they are hurt? Google has seriously damaged its brand in the past decade. People feel very strongly that Google's invasions of everyone's privacy, their erosion of internet freedom, and their blatant tax avoidance warrants significant punishment. It's not surprising that governments around the world are starting to see Google (and other SV companies) as a form of piggy bank that they can tap for funds occasionally. It's both lucrative and a vote winner.
- topicseed 5y ago
  Besides HN and similar small tech-conscious circles, I've never heard anybody complain about Google's privacy practices or Apple's walled garden.
  - onion2k 5y ago
    You should try to get out more then.
    - gruez 5y ago
      Or maybe you should? Going by comments on hn or reddit, you'd think that everybody thinks that amazon was a horrible company (eg. poor treatment of workers, fakes/counterfeits problem, fake reviews, monopolization), yet the surveys show that most people have favorable views of the company[1]. [1] https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2021-harrispoll-juneusapoll.pdf#page=15 https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2021-harrispoll-juneusa...
      - onion2k 5y ago
        What I love about surveys like that one is that 2% of the 2006 people asked said they've never heard of the U.S Military.
        gruez 5y ago
        explained by this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and-reptilian-muslim-climatologists-from-mars/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and...

by Tenoke 5y ago

Y_Y 5y ago

I don't hate Google at all. I don't think it would be controversial to say that they seem to have a lot of power relative to the legislatures of the countries they operate in, and it seems like they are able to skirt laws regarding e.g. anti-competitive behaviour, data protection, consumer rights. I don't like the law that they are alleged to have violated here, but I am glad to see proof that it is possible that action is taken against them if they do violate whatever laws they should operate under.

tpush 5y ago
> [...] but I am glad to see proof that it is possible that action is taken against them if they do violate whatever laws they should operate under. I don't think that was ever in question?

ecmascript 5y ago

> Do you hate Google THAT much that nothing matters if they are hurt? Pretty much as long as it's not completely unreasonable. Bad practices are used by american mega corporations all the time, it is nice to see them get a dose of their own medicine.

brnt 5y ago

Google does not get to decide the judicial reality in France. Or anywhere. Maybe in the US?

josefx 5y ago

Copyright applies to all equally, maybe we will finally get some lobbying to change it if it hurts billion dollar companies enough. Until then they can suffer under it the same way everyone else does.

onion2k 5y ago

Do you hate Google THAT much that nothing matters if they are hurt? Google has seriously damaged its brand in the past decade. People feel very strongly that Google's invasions of everyone's privacy, their erosion of internet freedom, and their blatant tax avoidance warrants significant punishment. It's not surprising that governments around the world are starting to see Google (and other SV companies) as a form of piggy bank that they can tap for funds occasionally. It's both lucrative and a vote winner.

topicseed 5y ago
Besides HN and similar small tech-conscious circles, I've never heard anybody complain about Google's privacy practices or Apple's walled garden.
- onion2k 5y ago
  You should try to get out more then.
  - gruez 5y ago
    Or maybe you should? Going by comments on hn or reddit, you'd think that everybody thinks that amazon was a horrible company (eg. poor treatment of workers, fakes/counterfeits problem, fake reviews, monopolization), yet the surveys show that most people have favorable views of the company[1]. [1] https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2021-harrispoll-juneusapoll.pdf#page=15 https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2021-harrispoll-juneusa...
    - onion2k 5y ago
      What I love about surveys like that one is that 2% of the 2006 people asked said they've never heard of the U.S Military.
      - gruez 5y ago
        explained by this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and-reptilian-muslim-climatologists-from-mars/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and...