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> I'm really starting to wonder why I bothered with the vax. This will just go on and on. Don't worry. This will not go on an on, we're just living through the
by Mordisquitos 5y ago
> I'm really starting to wonder why I bothered with the vax. This will just go on and on.
Don't worry. This will not go on an on, we're just living through the death rattles of the pandemic completely dominating global, collective, and media awareness over the past year and a half. Of course the BMA are concerned: they are doctors, they have taken the worst of the pandemic, and they just want this damn thing to stop. The difference is that for them, this damned thing is people needing medical attention, and they can only wish it were possible for everything to just bloody stop if that would release them with dealing with the worst of COVID-19. But it will get better, with minor ups and downs.
SARS-CoV-2 is of course not going anywhere. There will continue to be new variants, the media will for a while loudly (and clumsily) echo any clinical paper about breakthrough infections, or increases of cases in this or that population, or collapsed ICUs [0]. Meanwhile, vaccine manufacturers will try to lobby governments into buying and administering newly developed booster doses for this or that variant of concern. The new variant may or may not really be truly concerning for public health, but their business is manufacturing and selling pharmaceuticals, so fair enough.
But in any case, once a critical mass of the population is vaccinated, COVID-19 will gradually become irrelevant. Virtually everyone will have significant immunity, a few people will catch it and think it's just a cold, fewer people will catch it and develop a nasty flu-like case which will be correctly diagnosed as COVID-19, and there will even be nasty and even deadly cases in vaccinated people. But there are nasty and deadly cases of flu, and even nasty and deadly cases of common cold viruses. However, as the media little by little gets bored of making a big thing every time this happens, the epidemiology of COVID-19 will slowly become only of interest to people actually working in the field — just like they have been silently studying the epidemiology of every seasonal flu strain without any media attention.
[0] For Spain at least, I can find you news about collapsed ICUs... during pre-2019 flu seasons!
- premium-gecko 5y ago> This will not go on an on At what point would you be willing to admit you were wrong? If we're still doing whatever-variant this time next year, would you reconsider?
- Mordisquitos 5y agoI will be willing to admit I am wrong if, in a given country, we're still doing whatever-variant 6 months after the vaccination of school-age children is completed.
- premium-gecko 5y agoAre school-age children at risk from this virus? If not, what is the medical justification for performing a medical procedure on them?
- Nursie 5y agoIf it's virtually zero risk and it protects others, that's pretty justified. You know, like how we already take into account more than just individual risk when we vaccinate children. Stop trying to make out like this is some sort of new or extreme position. FYI - there have been about 30 kids in hospital in the UK with covid in the last month, so the risks are non-negligible.
- premium-gecko 5y ago> If it's virtually zero risk It would be great if we knew that, but we don't. We usually have long testing periods, but we didn't this time, for reasons that remain unclear. > Stop trying to make out like this is some sort of new or extreme position. Please remind me, when was the last time that we gave people vaccines not to protect that person specifically, but to allegedly protect some unknown other person, somewhere?
- Duckeh 5y ago> We usually have long testing periods, but we didn't this time, for reasons that remain unclear A pandemic ravaging the globe doesn't seem clear? > Please remind me, when was the last time that we gave people vaccines not to protect that person specifically, but to allegedly protect some unknown other person, somewhere? Herd immunity and personal protection are both parts of every vaccine, they go hand in hand. I'm surprised this is even a discussion on a place like HN... I guess I'm feeding the trolls...