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Sorry, I don't mean to nitpick, but the Espressif Dev-Kit boards are 2.5 * bigger than the TinyPICO (not 1 cm) and have no onboard battery management - somethin

by seonr 5y ago

Sorry, I don't mean to nitpick, but the Espressif Dev-Kit boards are 2.5 * bigger than the TinyPICO (not 1 cm) and have no onboard battery management - something that most ESP32 users want - and no extra PSRAM. They also have no low current power paths so are terrible at deep sleep. But they are designed as reference boards, not as user facing project boards. TinyPICO has 4MB Flash and 4MB extra PSRAM on top of the 520k SRAM plus the rest.

BoorishBears 5y ago
I'm starting to suspect people financially involved with this project are astroturfing here. https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-ESP-32S-Bluetooth-Wireless-ESP-WROOM-32/dp/B077KJNVFP/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=ESP32+usb+c&qid=1626169785&s=electronics&sr=1-9 https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-ESP-32S-Bluetooth-Wireless-ES... You know, I know, any reasonable person knows if someone is talking about dev kit boards for the ESP32 you include 3rd party remixes using the off-the-shelf modules.
- seonr 5y ago
  I'm the only owner, designer, manufacturer and financially involved person with any of my boards. If it's not my name on the post, it's not someone tied to the product beyond being a customer.
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    Why not lead with that?! You don't think it's relevant to your recommendation that you are the designer, owner, manufacturer, and sole financial beneficiary of the thing you recommended? - At no point did I say seon posted this taf2. At all. No idea why you keep replying with that comment.
    - taf2 5y ago
      I posted the article not seon. I just wanted to share with HN a project that I have really enjoyed over the last year that I thought other people on HN would really enjoy - sorry I have caused you any confusion or stress
    - seonr 5y ago
      I wasn't recommending it, I was replying to someone else's comment that inaccurately compared my TinyPICO to an Espressif DevKit. I don't have to lead EVERY comment with "I'm the developer and..." - That's asinine.
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        It's not that complicated, if you're evangelizing (which "clearing up misconceptions" on subjective matters like the normal boards being small enough is) you lead with a disclaimer This isn't some new thing, there are literally tens of thousands instances of "creator here/dev here/CEO here/etc." in comments on HN, this is not a new thing, it's not a huge burden, it's bare minimums to not come across as extremely shady. - But then again, 7 year old account leaving its first comment in 7 years doing something similar is what really sets of alarm bells...
        taf2 5y ago
        Again I posted the original story - I have zero connection to seon, I just really like his work and wanted to share since there has been so much discussion recently about esp32 boards. I only recently got into learning electronics and really found tinypico to be one of the easiest boards to work with. That said I’m super sorry I upset you.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        Again, I have no idea why you keep replying to me with these same words. Is this a bot I'm speaking to? I mean where is my comment mentioning you? I'm literally talking about a comment you didn't make... right? If anything your strange obsession with repeatedly replying to my comments that have literally nothing to do with you with the same exact text over and over is starting to add another layer to the strangeness here.
        taf2 5y ago
        nope not a bot - hope you have a better day
- tinco 5y ago
  You're posting interesting information but you keep doing these needless accusations. Of course there are people with financial interests defending the project here. You're literally responding to the creator of the board. They made a board, they're selling it, they're talking about it's virtues, it's not a bad thing. You suggesting alternatives is also not a bad thing, but you make it sound as if there's something nefarious going on.
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    How on earth is it not misleading to not lead with the fact you're the creator! I'd have zero issue with talking about their product if they lead with that in the comment! HN is probably 50% people talking about what they do, yet this is the first time I've ever called someone out for this. Like how hard is it to say "Hey, guy who created the board ... <insert exactly the same comment>". You shouldn't have to play sleuth checking people's comment histories to get such a simple (but important) disclaimer. - More weird replies... like where did I say seon posted the actual link? Or remotely imply that?
    - tinco 5y ago
      It doesn't really matter if they're the creator, or someone else financially benefitting from the project. They can just defend the project, and people can form their own opinions. This board is not censored, so everyone can read all comments and make up their own opinions. I hate that your comments are downvoted so much, when there's good information that would normally be a great contribution, or at least basis for good conversation. If you'd take a slightly less accusatory stance they would've been perfect comments.
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        I love that they're downvoted so much, the information is easy to find, I have no problem calling out the outright dishonesty of not leading with "I made the thing I'm about to recommend" And I have no issue being accusatory, in fact let me get more accusatory, how strange is it the other comment that I felt was weird came from a 4 karma account that made it's first comment in 7 years on this post! - It's funny because there are literally 6 ESP32 variants in my order history from the last month. There's one sitting next to me running the project I'm debugging. TinyPICO just went from "It's expensive but if I want to have a USB C port, that's the one" to "I will never buy one". I'm not saying that as some giant "gotcha!" I'm sure there's no shortage of people who will buy them, but I won't be one of them. Not going to support these kinds of games.
bbulkow 5y ago
I pointed all that out, thanks for pointing out it is 2.5cm instead of 1cm. Battery and size are where tinypico shines, and I mentioned the psram. If you are plugged in and 2.5 cm doesnt matter, I recommend espressif parts. Esp32 is very common for led controls. Leds are usually plugged in. For those uses, tinypico buys me less than I hoped.

by seonr 5y ago

BoorishBears 5y ago

I'm starting to suspect people financially involved with this project are astroturfing here. https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-ESP-32S-Bluetooth-Wireless-ESP-WROOM-32/dp/B077KJNVFP/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=ESP32+usb+c&qid=1626169785&s=electronics&sr=1-9 https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-ESP-32S-Bluetooth-Wireless-ES... You know, I know, any reasonable person knows if someone is talking about dev kit boards for the ESP32 you include 3rd party remixes using the off-the-shelf modules.

seonr 5y ago
I'm the only owner, designer, manufacturer and financially involved person with any of my boards. If it's not my name on the post, it's not someone tied to the product beyond being a customer.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  Why not lead with that?! You don't think it's relevant to your recommendation that you are the designer, owner, manufacturer, and sole financial beneficiary of the thing you recommended? - At no point did I say seon posted this taf2. At all. No idea why you keep replying with that comment.
  - taf2 5y ago
    I posted the article not seon. I just wanted to share with HN a project that I have really enjoyed over the last year that I thought other people on HN would really enjoy - sorry I have caused you any confusion or stress
  - seonr 5y ago
    I wasn't recommending it, I was replying to someone else's comment that inaccurately compared my TinyPICO to an Espressif DevKit. I don't have to lead EVERY comment with "I'm the developer and..." - That's asinine.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      It's not that complicated, if you're evangelizing (which "clearing up misconceptions" on subjective matters like the normal boards being small enough is) you lead with a disclaimer This isn't some new thing, there are literally tens of thousands instances of "creator here/dev here/CEO here/etc." in comments on HN, this is not a new thing, it's not a huge burden, it's bare minimums to not come across as extremely shady. - But then again, 7 year old account leaving its first comment in 7 years doing something similar is what really sets of alarm bells...
      - taf2 5y ago
        Again I posted the original story - I have zero connection to seon, I just really like his work and wanted to share since there has been so much discussion recently about esp32 boards. I only recently got into learning electronics and really found tinypico to be one of the easiest boards to work with. That said I’m super sorry I upset you.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        Again, I have no idea why you keep replying to me with these same words. Is this a bot I'm speaking to? I mean where is my comment mentioning you? I'm literally talking about a comment you didn't make... right? If anything your strange obsession with repeatedly replying to my comments that have literally nothing to do with you with the same exact text over and over is starting to add another layer to the strangeness here.
        taf2 5y ago
        nope not a bot - hope you have a better day
tinco 5y ago
You're posting interesting information but you keep doing these needless accusations. Of course there are people with financial interests defending the project here. You're literally responding to the creator of the board. They made a board, they're selling it, they're talking about it's virtues, it's not a bad thing. You suggesting alternatives is also not a bad thing, but you make it sound as if there's something nefarious going on.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  How on earth is it not misleading to not lead with the fact you're the creator! I'd have zero issue with talking about their product if they lead with that in the comment! HN is probably 50% people talking about what they do, yet this is the first time I've ever called someone out for this. Like how hard is it to say "Hey, guy who created the board ... <insert exactly the same comment>". You shouldn't have to play sleuth checking people's comment histories to get such a simple (but important) disclaimer. - More weird replies... like where did I say seon posted the actual link? Or remotely imply that?
  - tinco 5y ago
    It doesn't really matter if they're the creator, or someone else financially benefitting from the project. They can just defend the project, and people can form their own opinions. This board is not censored, so everyone can read all comments and make up their own opinions. I hate that your comments are downvoted so much, when there's good information that would normally be a great contribution, or at least basis for good conversation. If you'd take a slightly less accusatory stance they would've been perfect comments.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      I love that they're downvoted so much, the information is easy to find, I have no problem calling out the outright dishonesty of not leading with "I made the thing I'm about to recommend" And I have no issue being accusatory, in fact let me get more accusatory, how strange is it the other comment that I felt was weird came from a 4 karma account that made it's first comment in 7 years on this post! - It's funny because there are literally 6 ESP32 variants in my order history from the last month. There's one sitting next to me running the project I'm debugging. TinyPICO just went from "It's expensive but if I want to have a USB C port, that's the one" to "I will never buy one". I'm not saying that as some giant "gotcha!" I'm sure there's no shortage of people who will buy them, but I won't be one of them. Not going to support these kinds of games.

bbulkow 5y ago

I pointed all that out, thanks for pointing out it is 2.5cm instead of 1cm. Battery and size are where tinypico shines, and I mentioned the psram. If you are plugged in and 2.5 cm doesnt matter, I recommend espressif parts. Esp32 is very common for led controls. Leds are usually plugged in. For those uses, tinypico buys me less than I hoped.