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That or boxing or kickboxing or wrestling or bjj. Those are the only truly effective combat sports. Perhaps judo too.

datameta 5y ago
It is the confidence in being able to defend oneself that leads one to avoid having fights intitiated with them by virtue of how they comport themselves in a relaxed unthreatened manner. To top it off, training in something like muay thai will get the kid a great headstart on leading a fit lifestyle. Never done an aerobic activity more tiring or sweat inducing.
- bloniac 5y ago
  Ah yes I forgot Muay Thai… that’s the real deal for sure.
  - datameta 5y ago
    Oh you pretty much covered my point with kickboxing and the rest :) Only adding a specific one from my experience.
weimerica 5y ago
The only push-back I have on BJJ (as I practice both KM and BJJ) is that there is a huge sport-orientation whereas KM, assuming trained competently, is a combative system such that you'll often get a "practice this slowly and carefully because you can and will cause damage to your partner." Personally, I have a little harder of a time training BJJ for the reason that everyone thinks it is the best for real-world defense but the reality is many moves open you up to serious maiming in a combative environment. Take for example the typical "get past the guard" move, I most always have the option in a true fight of grabbing your knees and splaying them outward leaving you with an unfortunate convalescent leave, perhaps permanent injury. More generally, if you're going for true-blue self-defense any sporting-oriented art is good but not great - you'll do well against an untrained assailant, which is likely a good chunk of the threat model.
- jerednel 5y ago
  perhaps im misunderstanding but just pushing someones knees apart when you are in their closed guard just wouldn't work. and given the presence of the electric chair and the twister i'm not sure that any approach to passing guard would necessarily be disallowed unless you are striking.

It is the confidence in being able to defend oneself that leads one to avoid having fights intitiated with them by virtue of how they comport themselves in a relaxed unthreatened manner. To top it off, training in something like muay thai will get the kid a great headstart on leading a fit lifestyle. Never done an aerobic activity more tiring or sweat inducing.

bloniac 5y ago
Ah yes I forgot Muay Thai… that’s the real deal for sure.
- datameta 5y ago
  Oh you pretty much covered my point with kickboxing and the rest :) Only adding a specific one from my experience.

weimerica 5y ago

The only push-back I have on BJJ (as I practice both KM and BJJ) is that there is a huge sport-orientation whereas KM, assuming trained competently, is a combative system such that you'll often get a "practice this slowly and carefully because you can and will cause damage to your partner." Personally, I have a little harder of a time training BJJ for the reason that everyone thinks it is the best for real-world defense but the reality is many moves open you up to serious maiming in a combative environment. Take for example the typical "get past the guard" move, I most always have the option in a true fight of grabbing your knees and splaying them outward leaving you with an unfortunate convalescent leave, perhaps permanent injury. More generally, if you're going for true-blue self-defense any sporting-oriented art is good but not great - you'll do well against an untrained assailant, which is likely a good chunk of the threat model.

jerednel 5y ago
perhaps im misunderstanding but just pushing someones knees apart when you are in their closed guard just wouldn't work. and given the presence of the electric chair and the twister i'm not sure that any approach to passing guard would necessarily be disallowed unless you are striking.