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Pretty sure, you loose the right to repair when you are leasing something, as all lease agreements for vehicles I've seen have direct stipulations on the requir

Pretty sure, you loose the right to repair when you are leasing something, as all lease agreements for vehicles I've seen have direct stipulations on the requirements, and penalties of performing and not performing maintenance and repair to their vehicle. I fully support right to repair YOUR PROPERTY, but I also support as part of that, that if the car is owned by Tesla, they have the right to dictate maintenance requirements, and have a say so in who, and what they feel is a valid fix. I don't see how right to repair would, or should force a change here?

late2part 5y ago
We should tighten the right to repair - not loosen it!
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  Why?
  - coolspot 5y ago
    It is a joke on misspelling of “lose”. “Loose the right to repair” means to make the right to repair loose, opposite of tight. “Lose the right to repair” means to make the right to repair being lost.
nerdponx 5y ago
2027: automakers gradually stop selling cars and transition to a lease-only "subscription" model.
- filoleg 5y ago
  If anything, Tesla seems to be going in the opposite direction, because their cars usually become available for lease only a a couple of years after the release. All while most other car manufacturers tend to offer lease options immediately on release. Case in point: Model 3 came out in 2017, but wasn't available for lease until April 2019[0]. Other car manufacturers tried getting into subscription-based models a few years ago, but don't seem to be that successful with that. BMW introduced their All Access subscription model in 2018, it got discontinued just earlier this year[1]. The rest who tried similar subscription models seem to be going the exact same way too. 0. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/04/12/tesla-model-3-leasing-standard-plus/3445401002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/04/12/tesla-m... 1. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/14/22231451/bmw-access-subscription-shut-down-nashville-cancel https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/14/22231451/bmw-access-subsc...
- pmorici 5y ago
  A subscription model isn't ideal for a physical depreciating asset like a car. Maybe for software features but having the customer pay outright for the vehicle is more beneficial to Tesla.
ineedasername 5y ago
You're supposed to perform scheduled maintenance. You are generally not limited in which mechanic you use. A mechanic will simply look in the service manual (or owner's manual if you've kept that in the glove box) on a particular model if you bring it to them and say "I need a 30k mile maintance"

late2part 5y ago

We should tighten the right to repair - not loosen it!

chrisseaton 5y ago
Why?
- coolspot 5y ago
  It is a joke on misspelling of “lose”. “Loose the right to repair” means to make the right to repair loose, opposite of tight. “Lose the right to repair” means to make the right to repair being lost.

nerdponx 5y ago

2027: automakers gradually stop selling cars and transition to a lease-only "subscription" model.

filoleg 5y ago
If anything, Tesla seems to be going in the opposite direction, because their cars usually become available for lease only a a couple of years after the release. All while most other car manufacturers tend to offer lease options immediately on release. Case in point: Model 3 came out in 2017, but wasn't available for lease until April 2019[0]. Other car manufacturers tried getting into subscription-based models a few years ago, but don't seem to be that successful with that. BMW introduced their All Access subscription model in 2018, it got discontinued just earlier this year[1]. The rest who tried similar subscription models seem to be going the exact same way too. 0. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/04/12/tesla-model-3-leasing-standard-plus/3445401002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/04/12/tesla-m... 1. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/14/22231451/bmw-access-subscription-shut-down-nashville-cancel https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/14/22231451/bmw-access-subsc...
pmorici 5y ago
A subscription model isn't ideal for a physical depreciating asset like a car. Maybe for software features but having the customer pay outright for the vehicle is more beneficial to Tesla.

ineedasername 5y ago

You're supposed to perform scheduled maintenance. You are generally not limited in which mechanic you use. A mechanic will simply look in the service manual (or owner's manual if you've kept that in the glove box) on a particular model if you bring it to them and say "I need a 30k mile maintance"