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Why do they need the communist party? Democracies can do far better jobs for example Norway, Sweden, Germany, Singapore etc. And if the embargo is the only prob

Why do they need the communist party? Democracies can do far better jobs for example Norway, Sweden, Germany, Singapore etc. And if the embargo is the only problem, why then the Communist Party does not step down? It is not like they wanted to import capitalist goods like Coca Cola, iPhones, Nike etc. Communist party likes the embargo.

aaomidi 5y ago
All of those examples you listed rely on a the global south to keep their lifestyles going. Embargos aren't just for "capitalist goods". "Communism" isn't against trade. There are some raw materials that a country the size of Cuba can never get without meaningful trade.
- rmanolis 5y ago
  Why should USA trade only raw materials, when it does not need any?
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    It's not the US. The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. It also heavily limits who can do business with Cuba. The US is a massive economic force basically pushing Cuba to adopt a political model that the US wants.
    - hooplah 5y ago
      Have you spoken to any person who escaped Cuba? I bet you haven't, because they'll all tell you they escaped because the oppressive regime, not because of poverty. The sanctions are there for the same reasons we have sanctions against North Korea, trading with murderous regimes is condoning their actions. Listen to the protests and the Cuban people, you may learn something. Hint: they're chanting "freedom", not "relieve sanctions". They're protesting their government, not ours. But please tell me more how the Cuban people are uninformed and you understand the conflict better.
      - aaomidi 5y ago
        > 6 days ago account And yes I have. Cuba's regime is shit - the embargo is also shit. America's argument with Cuba would work better if they weren't suffocating them.
        hooplah 5y ago
        What does my account age have to do with anything I've said? Congrats you noticed my name is green, now stick to the discussion, don't attack me. We shouldn't condone Cuba's regime by allowing trade and enriching them further without getting something for the people of Cuba in regards to liberty.
    - Turing_Machine 5y ago
      > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. No, they don't. Canada, right next door, has a vast amount of trade with Cuba. No "threats" are in play.
      - aaomidi 5y ago
        https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-global-trade-cuba-united-states-jack-ma-2858fbaa2dd5460fa2988b888fc53748 https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-global-trade-cuba-... You're wrong.
        alentist 5y ago
        No, they're not. Cuban officials say the cargo carrier of Colombia-based Avianca Airlines declined to carry the aid to Cuba because its major shareholder is a U.S.-based company subject to the trade embargo on Cuba.
        aaomidi 5y ago
        Yes. That's how threats of sanctions work.
        alentist 5y ago
        No. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. https://oec.world/en/profile/country/cub https://oec.world/en/profile/country/cub
    - alentist 5y ago
      > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. It also heavily limits who can do business with Cuba. That's a lie. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and the Netherlands.
      - ErneX 5y ago
        Yup, Spain has luxury hotels in Cuba. Hotels which by the way cubans cannot afford or are even allowed to step foot in.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. No, it threatens to impose legal liability on any company doing business in Cuba using expropriated property. Which is a bad enough policy that it doesn't require exaggeration.
ErneX 5y ago
The embargo is an excuse, Cuba has leeched from Venezuela's oil boom in the last 2 decades only to remain as poor as always, and also destroying Venezuela, leveling to the same disaster as the island. The people close to the regime are living the life of course.

aaomidi 5y ago

All of those examples you listed rely on a the global south to keep their lifestyles going. Embargos aren't just for "capitalist goods". "Communism" isn't against trade. There are some raw materials that a country the size of Cuba can never get without meaningful trade.

rmanolis 5y ago
Why should USA trade only raw materials, when it does not need any?
- aaomidi 5y ago
  It's not the US. The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. It also heavily limits who can do business with Cuba. The US is a massive economic force basically pushing Cuba to adopt a political model that the US wants.
  - hooplah 5y ago
    Have you spoken to any person who escaped Cuba? I bet you haven't, because they'll all tell you they escaped because the oppressive regime, not because of poverty. The sanctions are there for the same reasons we have sanctions against North Korea, trading with murderous regimes is condoning their actions. Listen to the protests and the Cuban people, you may learn something. Hint: they're chanting "freedom", not "relieve sanctions". They're protesting their government, not ours. But please tell me more how the Cuban people are uninformed and you understand the conflict better.
    - aaomidi 5y ago
      > 6 days ago account And yes I have. Cuba's regime is shit - the embargo is also shit. America's argument with Cuba would work better if they weren't suffocating them.
      - hooplah 5y ago
        What does my account age have to do with anything I've said? Congrats you noticed my name is green, now stick to the discussion, don't attack me. We shouldn't condone Cuba's regime by allowing trade and enriching them further without getting something for the people of Cuba in regards to liberty.
  - Turing_Machine 5y ago
    > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. No, they don't. Canada, right next door, has a vast amount of trade with Cuba. No "threats" are in play.
    - aaomidi 5y ago
      https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-global-trade-cuba-united-states-jack-ma-2858fbaa2dd5460fa2988b888fc53748 https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-global-trade-cuba-... You're wrong.
      - alentist 5y ago
        No, they're not. Cuban officials say the cargo carrier of Colombia-based Avianca Airlines declined to carry the aid to Cuba because its major shareholder is a U.S.-based company subject to the trade embargo on Cuba.
        aaomidi 5y ago
        Yes. That's how threats of sanctions work.
        alentist 5y ago
        No. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. https://oec.world/en/profile/country/cub https://oec.world/en/profile/country/cub
  - alentist 5y ago
    > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. It also heavily limits who can do business with Cuba. That's a lie. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and the Netherlands.
    - ErneX 5y ago
      Yup, Spain has luxury hotels in Cuba. Hotels which by the way cubans cannot afford or are even allowed to step foot in.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > The US threatens to sanction any country doing business with Cuba. No, it threatens to impose legal liability on any company doing business in Cuba using expropriated property. Which is a bad enough policy that it doesn't require exaggeration.

ErneX 5y ago

The embargo is an excuse, Cuba has leeched from Venezuela's oil boom in the last 2 decades only to remain as poor as always, and also destroying Venezuela, leveling to the same disaster as the island. The people close to the regime are living the life of course.