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Cuba experiences shortages because the economy is in shambles. Australia is far from its trading partners, yet it remains rich. Distance from rich trading partn
by nickff 5y ago
Cuba experiences shortages because the economy is in shambles. Australia is far from its trading partners, yet it remains rich. Distance from rich trading partners is not the problem here.
- pjc50 5y agoIsn't it still subject to sanctions?
- nickff 5y agoCuba is closer to rich trading partners (like the EU) than the Australia is to its rich trading partners (like the USA). Each also has poorer trading partners nearby (SE Asian countries and Central American countries respectively).
- pjc50 5y agoDistance is kind of irrelvant. What is more relevant are the sanctions, maybe? https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2020/10/united-states-expands-cuban-assets-control-regulations https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2020/10/unite... https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/cuba-sanctions https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/... "WARNING: TOUR PACKAGES FOR SCUBA DIVING, BICYCLING, HUNTING, FISHING, HIKING OR OTHER TOURIST TRAVEL IN CUBA ARE ILLEGAL" https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/126/cubatrav.pdf https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/126/cubatrav.pdf (from the previous page)
- Turing_Machine 5y agoThose are U.S. sanctions. They do not apply to the E.U. or Canada.
- pope_meat 5y agoWhat happens to a company that wants to do business with Cuba, and the United States. I'm not 100% certain, but I have a sneaking suspicion that in order to get access to the sweet little money piggies that is US consumers, you gotta swear not to do business with dirty terrorists and commies. Maybe that's not how it works, but boy I'd be shocked.
- nickff 5y agoMany airlines fly to both Cuba and the USA.
- sudosysgen 5y agoYes, they do. Since 2019 you are legally liable if you trade with anyone in Cuban that is linked to goods seized in the revolution. The Canadian government and the EU have programs to mitigate that liability but it's still there.
- 908B64B197 5y agoThat's just normal. It's illegal anywhere to profit or sell stolen goods. Why not simply return the property to it's owners?
- sudosysgen 5y agoNo, it's not normal. If you live in America all the land you may own and all its proceeds was stolen, obtained fraudulously, or obtained under duress. This is the case in almost every country on earth. You're not required to give it back because for better or for worse governments are considered sovereign, except for Cuba when that's convenient to US geopolitical goals.
- alentist 5y agohttps://spectatorworld.com/myth-stolen-country-america-new-world/ https://spectatorworld.com/myth-stolen-country-america-new-w...
- alentist 5y agoOnly the US. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and the Netherlands.
- rantwasp 5y agocan you trade stuff when you are subject to an embargo?
- nickff 5y agoCanada, Mexico, and the EU are all major trading partners for Cuba.
- snypher 5y agoSeems to me goods from Canada would be more expensive that getting them from the country 80 miles away.
- version_five 5y agoThen why is it cheaper go get stuff from China than from the US? Proximity of manufactue is virtually irrelevant for most goods.
- snypher 5y agoProximity is everything in trade goods. Things from China are cheaper than US made due to labor costs not shipping.
- nickff 5y agoI completely agree that access to the US market would be extremely convenient for Cuba, but my point, and the reason for the comparison to Australia is to show that the USA is not what has caused Cuba's dismal state.
- etc-hosts 5y agoUS has spent the last 50 years trying to knock over Cuba's government and economy. Come on man!
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- etc-hosts 5y agoThe US hijacks vessels of goods going to Cuba. I don't understand why you think Cuba's shortages have nothing to do with the US threatening anyone who trades with Cuba.
- nickff 5y ago>"The US hijacks vessels of goods going to Cuba." The USA is blockading Cuba? This is news to me! There are regular flights from Canada to Cuba via US airspace, and many Americans take the trip!
- Turing_Machine 5y ago> The US hijacks vessels of goods going to Cuba. Nonsense. [citation needed]
- alentist 5y ago> the US threatening anyone who trades with Cuba That's a lie. Cuba trades with China, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and the Netherlands.