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I mean, seriously, just look at the molecule. All those nitrogen atoms lying there restless to each go their own separate way:) I would be surprised if it wasn

I mean, seriously, just look at the molecule. All those nitrogen atoms lying there restless to each go their own separate way:) I would be surprised if it wasn't.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
At a bare minimum it'd probably be a damn good oxidizer at which point you're 80% of the way to a good explosive.
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mabbo 5y ago
As someone who dropped chemistry in grade 11- what makes Nitrogen so exciting like that? So many common explosive compounds seem to have it.
- Thorondor 5y ago
  When nitrogen compounds combust, they tend to produce nitrogen gas (N2). Since nitrogen molecules contain a very strong nitrogen-nitrogen triple bond, a lot of energy is released when they form.
- G3rn0ti 5y ago
  Nitrogen-Nitrogen bonds inside larger molecules are never quite stable because 1) nitrogen “wants” to form stable di-nitrogen (N2) molecules containing a very stable triple bond (an exothermic reaction) and 2) the result of such decompositions is nitrogen gas increasing the amount of entropy released (due to more molecules being created). Reactions are driven both by the amount of heat released (enthalpy) and the amount of “disorder” created (entropy). Explosive reactions tend to be the ones where both factors add to the driving force.
  - morpheuskafka 5y ago
    Does the same apply to oxygen? Since it also likes to be in a diatomic form.
    - masklinn 5y ago
      The opposite, or oxygen wouldn't be such a strong oxidiser, which implies it readily and energetically leaves its double bond behind for either single bonds (H2O) or double bonds with non-oxygen atoms (CO2).
    - G3rn0ti 5y ago
      Oh, yes. Every substance carrying a „peroxo“ in its name is usually nasty stuff. Concentrated hydrogenperoxide for example can explode creating gaseous water (aka steam) and dioxygen (aka oxygen) in the process. While O2 is a corrosive, it is quite inert under normal conditions (which is why our clothes don’t burst into flames spontaneously).
    - opportune 5y ago
      Diatomic oxygen is less stable than many other oxygen-containing compounds like CO2 (that is why charcoal burns) but diatomic nitrogen is pretty much as stable as nitrogen can get.
    - lmilcin 5y ago
      Hydrogen peroxide at sufficient concentration can be used as rocket fuel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide "High-concentration H2O2 is referred to as "high-test peroxide" (HTP). It can be used either as a monopropellant (not mixed with fuel) or as the oxidizer component of a bipropellant rocket."
    - jldugger 5y ago
      I mean, pure oxygen envs are pretty dangerous on their own, compared to pure N2.
- jhallenworld 5y ago
  They can form molecules where nitrogen is not in its lowest energy bond (which is the triple-bond N2 gas) and where a reaction to this lower energy molecule can be triggered with some small activation energy. The energy released provides the activation energy for nearby material so you get a chemical chain reaction.
- jihadjihad 5y ago
  I thought this was an informative read for someone who also only has a limited knowledge of chemistry: https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/06/27/when-does-the-breaking-of-chemical-bonds-release-energy/ https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/06/27/when-does-the-breaki...
short_sells_poo 5y ago
I think some (many) blood vessel dilation meds are based on nitroglycerin :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin_(medication) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin_(medication) I certainly remember looking with great suspicion at my granddad's medicine and was very much disappointed when my attempts to light his pills on fire did not yield rapid and uncontrolled decomposition.
- rzzzt 5y ago
  Wages of Fear, anyone? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046268/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046268/
- Tuna-Fish 5y ago
  Burning nitroglycerin does not make it explode. Miners used to burn it in their headlamps when they found that it burns with a cleaner flame than the alternatives they had. This was obviously violently opposed to by the mine owners -- less so because of the explosion hazard, and more so because it's way more expensive than lamp oil.

I mean, seriously, just look at the molecule. All those nitrogen atoms lying there restless to each go their own separate way:) I would be surprised if it wasn't.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

At a bare minimum it'd probably be a damn good oxidizer at which point you're 80% of the way to a good explosive.

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mabbo 5y ago

As someone who dropped chemistry in grade 11- what makes Nitrogen so exciting like that? So many common explosive compounds seem to have it.

Thorondor 5y ago
When nitrogen compounds combust, they tend to produce nitrogen gas (N2). Since nitrogen molecules contain a very strong nitrogen-nitrogen triple bond, a lot of energy is released when they form.
G3rn0ti 5y ago
Nitrogen-Nitrogen bonds inside larger molecules are never quite stable because 1) nitrogen “wants” to form stable di-nitrogen (N2) molecules containing a very stable triple bond (an exothermic reaction) and 2) the result of such decompositions is nitrogen gas increasing the amount of entropy released (due to more molecules being created). Reactions are driven both by the amount of heat released (enthalpy) and the amount of “disorder” created (entropy). Explosive reactions tend to be the ones where both factors add to the driving force.
- morpheuskafka 5y ago
  Does the same apply to oxygen? Since it also likes to be in a diatomic form.
  - masklinn 5y ago
    The opposite, or oxygen wouldn't be such a strong oxidiser, which implies it readily and energetically leaves its double bond behind for either single bonds (H2O) or double bonds with non-oxygen atoms (CO2).
  - G3rn0ti 5y ago
    Oh, yes. Every substance carrying a „peroxo“ in its name is usually nasty stuff. Concentrated hydrogenperoxide for example can explode creating gaseous water (aka steam) and dioxygen (aka oxygen) in the process. While O2 is a corrosive, it is quite inert under normal conditions (which is why our clothes don’t burst into flames spontaneously).
  - opportune 5y ago
    Diatomic oxygen is less stable than many other oxygen-containing compounds like CO2 (that is why charcoal burns) but diatomic nitrogen is pretty much as stable as nitrogen can get.
  - lmilcin 5y ago
    Hydrogen peroxide at sufficient concentration can be used as rocket fuel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide "High-concentration H2O2 is referred to as "high-test peroxide" (HTP). It can be used either as a monopropellant (not mixed with fuel) or as the oxidizer component of a bipropellant rocket."
  - jldugger 5y ago
    I mean, pure oxygen envs are pretty dangerous on their own, compared to pure N2.
jhallenworld 5y ago
They can form molecules where nitrogen is not in its lowest energy bond (which is the triple-bond N2 gas) and where a reaction to this lower energy molecule can be triggered with some small activation energy. The energy released provides the activation energy for nearby material so you get a chemical chain reaction.
jihadjihad 5y ago
I thought this was an informative read for someone who also only has a limited knowledge of chemistry: https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/06/27/when-does-the-breaking-of-chemical-bonds-release-energy/ https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/06/27/when-does-the-breaki...

short_sells_poo 5y ago

I think some (many) blood vessel dilation meds are based on nitroglycerin :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin_(medication) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin_(medication) I certainly remember looking with great suspicion at my granddad's medicine and was very much disappointed when my attempts to light his pills on fire did not yield rapid and uncontrolled decomposition.

rzzzt 5y ago
Wages of Fear, anyone? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046268/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046268/
Tuna-Fish 5y ago
Burning nitroglycerin does not make it explode. Miners used to burn it in their headlamps when they found that it burns with a cleaner flame than the alternatives they had. This was obviously violently opposed to by the mine owners -- less so because of the explosion hazard, and more so because it's way more expensive than lamp oil.