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There is ample evidence that the 20th century on the uS west coast was an abnormality when it came to rain and rainfall. The normal going back 2000 years is of

There is ample evidence that the 20th century on the uS west coast was an abnormality when it came to rain and rainfall. The normal going back 2000 years is of a much hotter drier region for the west, here is a study that proves that - https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=13274 https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=1327... and here is another using tree ring analysis - https://baynature.org/article/story-future-california-written-rings-redwoods/ https://baynature.org/article/story-future-california-writte...

runarberg 5y ago
What does that have to do with anything? Even if true (and say the 2000 year old climate data was not cherry picked to make a point) I doubt that the changes back then to the current ‘abnormality’ happened at the same pace the current changes back to the supposed ‘normality’. Also the changes back to this supposed ‘normality’ are only happening now because of abnormally high co2 levels in the atmosphere—emitted by humans—which are causing the temperature to go up in most places on the planet. The changes in the pacific north west is a manifestation of this broader change, and that is what people are justly worried about. No matter if the climate in this local area is going back to an “older patter”.
- subsubzero 5y ago
  > What does that have to do with anything? Everything, I live in California and my family has lived here for generations. If droughts and higher heat are normal events and the fact that there are an extremely large amount of people living in California currently and a large portion of nations food are grown here are extremely concerning. Expect mass exoduses to other areas of the country, and sky high produce prices if a 60 year drought happens like has happened multiple times before. In addition if the 20th century and its wet abnormality allowed a population explosion to this area we need to expedite de-salinization efforts, reduce water wherever possible and reduce carbon as well.

runarberg 5y ago

What does that have to do with anything? Even if true (and say the 2000 year old climate data was not cherry picked to make a point) I doubt that the changes back then to the current ‘abnormality’ happened at the same pace the current changes back to the supposed ‘normality’. Also the changes back to this supposed ‘normality’ are only happening now because of abnormally high co2 levels in the atmosphere—emitted by humans—which are causing the temperature to go up in most places on the planet. The changes in the pacific north west is a manifestation of this broader change, and that is what people are justly worried about. No matter if the climate in this local area is going back to an “older patter”.

subsubzero 5y ago
> What does that have to do with anything? Everything, I live in California and my family has lived here for generations. If droughts and higher heat are normal events and the fact that there are an extremely large amount of people living in California currently and a large portion of nations food are grown here are extremely concerning. Expect mass exoduses to other areas of the country, and sky high produce prices if a 60 year drought happens like has happened multiple times before. In addition if the 20th century and its wet abnormality allowed a population explosion to this area we need to expedite de-salinization efforts, reduce water wherever possible and reduce carbon as well.