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Any examples of awesome open source php examples? (real question, not a snide remark)

knieveltech 15y ago
Drupal. Recently rumored to platform 1% of all websites. The codebase is clean (even cleaner in Drupal 7), and naysayers be damned the hook system baked in makes modular coding a breeze. Of course, code quality varies once you start looking at community contributed modules, but that's to be expected. Downvote? Really? Pfft.
- eropple 15y ago
  Drupal's core architecture is extremely dated. You might like the hook system, but it is in no way a replacement for dependency injection a la Symfony2.
  - knieveltech 15y ago
    Dated? By who's standards? Yours? The UN, NATO, Amnesty International and Sony all disagree with your assessment.
    - eropple 15y ago
      Yes, by mine. I've spent quite a lot of time elbow-deep in Drupal. It is better code than Wordpress--though that is damning with faint praise--but does not really reach the bar of a Lithium or a Symfony2. Now, it's certainly more normal-friendly than Symfony2 or the like by way of allowing non-developers to implement (a subset of) features, but I wouldn't call it programmer-friendly and I wouldn't use its internals as an example of good code.
    - ceejayoz 15y ago
      Twitter's new developer site, too.
- TylerE 15y ago
  Urm, no. There's lots to like about Drupal, but clean code isn't one of theme. I mean, it's not PHPNuke, but clear and logical it ain't. I'm saying that as lead dev on a drupal site that pushes pretty heavy traffic and has thousands of man hours in it.
- ceejayoz 15y ago
  I love Drupal, but turning on devel.module and seeing 300+ queries on many pages was a bit of a fright.
jtreminio 15y ago
Code quality of the Kohana Framework is top notch, imo.
- JoeCortopassi 15y ago
  ^this. I actually grow as a programmer when I read through the Kohana source
jimktrains2 15y ago
Kohana is pretty nice IMHO
- pak 15y ago
  If only they could get the docs back up to par! Things were sort of OK for 2.x, even if you needed some background in CodeIgniter to really understand everything, but half of the wiki for 3.x is empty pages with TODO's. I still recommend that people new to Kohana start with 2.x because a framework is worth a lot less without quality documentation, when you have to go read the code all the time. Not that you shouldn't do that eventually, there's a lot of good code in there to learn from!
  - encoderer 15y ago
    Kohana is wonderful because it's simple: I never had any problem reading the code if I wanted to know what something did.
    - iaskwhy 15y ago
      That's good but it also makes it annoying to work with it. I prefer having good docs which takes me 30 seconds to scan and find what I am looking for than having the better code in the world so I go with CodeIgniter instead (the new version is pretty good).
- devmach 15y ago
  Because of the lack of documentation (v3), i begin to read source code to understand... At the and i found myself while writing my own framework :) Really, Kohana needs more documentation....
akie 15y ago
I really like the Yii framework - very clean if you ask me
- Periodic 15y ago
  Another developer introduced me to Yii when he got me on board for a PHP contract he needed help with. I was hesitant to take PHP work at first, because my previous experiences were harrowing at best. However, I found the framework was almost pleasant. It had a lot of the features I had grown used to in frameworks like Rails, and though I still have to wrestle with some frustrations of PHP, it is a minor annoyance as I go about writing good OOP MVC code. I would personally pick another language if I were doing something from scratch, but the benefit is that it is a language others are already familiar with and so adding a framework like Yii isn't too hard.
encoderer 15y ago
Flow3

Drupal. Recently rumored to platform 1% of all websites. The codebase is clean (even cleaner in Drupal 7), and naysayers be damned the hook system baked in makes modular coding a breeze. Of course, code quality varies once you start looking at community contributed modules, but that's to be expected. Downvote? Really? Pfft.

eropple 15y ago
Drupal's core architecture is extremely dated. You might like the hook system, but it is in no way a replacement for dependency injection a la Symfony2.
- knieveltech 15y ago
  Dated? By who's standards? Yours? The UN, NATO, Amnesty International and Sony all disagree with your assessment.
  - eropple 15y ago
    Yes, by mine. I've spent quite a lot of time elbow-deep in Drupal. It is better code than Wordpress--though that is damning with faint praise--but does not really reach the bar of a Lithium or a Symfony2. Now, it's certainly more normal-friendly than Symfony2 or the like by way of allowing non-developers to implement (a subset of) features, but I wouldn't call it programmer-friendly and I wouldn't use its internals as an example of good code.
  - ceejayoz 15y ago
    Twitter's new developer site, too.
TylerE 15y ago
Urm, no. There's lots to like about Drupal, but clean code isn't one of theme. I mean, it's not PHPNuke, but clear and logical it ain't. I'm saying that as lead dev on a drupal site that pushes pretty heavy traffic and has thousands of man hours in it.
ceejayoz 15y ago
I love Drupal, but turning on devel.module and seeing 300+ queries on many pages was a bit of a fright.

jtreminio 15y ago

Code quality of the Kohana Framework is top notch, imo.

JoeCortopassi 15y ago
^this. I actually grow as a programmer when I read through the Kohana source

jimktrains2 15y ago

Kohana is pretty nice IMHO

pak 15y ago
If only they could get the docs back up to par! Things were sort of OK for 2.x, even if you needed some background in CodeIgniter to really understand everything, but half of the wiki for 3.x is empty pages with TODO's. I still recommend that people new to Kohana start with 2.x because a framework is worth a lot less without quality documentation, when you have to go read the code all the time. Not that you shouldn't do that eventually, there's a lot of good code in there to learn from!
- encoderer 15y ago
  Kohana is wonderful because it's simple: I never had any problem reading the code if I wanted to know what something did.
  - iaskwhy 15y ago
    That's good but it also makes it annoying to work with it. I prefer having good docs which takes me 30 seconds to scan and find what I am looking for than having the better code in the world so I go with CodeIgniter instead (the new version is pretty good).
devmach 15y ago
Because of the lack of documentation (v3), i begin to read source code to understand... At the and i found myself while writing my own framework :) Really, Kohana needs more documentation....

akie 15y ago

I really like the Yii framework - very clean if you ask me

Periodic 15y ago
Another developer introduced me to Yii when he got me on board for a PHP contract he needed help with. I was hesitant to take PHP work at first, because my previous experiences were harrowing at best. However, I found the framework was almost pleasant. It had a lot of the features I had grown used to in frameworks like Rails, and though I still have to wrestle with some frustrations of PHP, it is a minor annoyance as I go about writing good OOP MVC code. I would personally pick another language if I were doing something from scratch, but the benefit is that it is a language others are already familiar with and so adding a framework like Yii isn't too hard.

encoderer 15y ago

Flow3