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The Twitter thread is lacking in attributions, but I saw most of these some months back after a post about scary FSD behavior. I watched with morbid curiosity,

The Twitter thread is lacking in attributions, but I saw most of these some months back after a post about scary FSD behavior. I watched with morbid curiosity, and a rising level of anger. The guy with the white ball cap repeatedly attempted a left turn across two lanes of fast-moving traffic, with a drone providing overhead views. He seemed smart, aware, and even a bit conservative in intervening. Nonetheless, I couldn't help but thinking that none of the oncoming vehicles consented to the experiments racking up YouTube views. If he doesn't jump on the brakes at the right time, he potentially causes a head-on collision with a good chance of fatalities. Yes, I do agree that beta drivers should get extra training. However, I'm not sure I agree with the premise of beta testing an aluminum rocket on wheels on public roads in the first place.

misiti3780 5y ago
How do you know the beta drivers did not get training?
- SloopJon 5y ago
  I said that they should. I don't know whether they do. A March 2021 tweet indicated that beta access will be as simple as pressing a "Download Beta" button in the car. A subsequent tweet said that the program had 2,000 owners, some of whom have had their access revoked for not paying enough attention to the road.
aeternum 5y ago
Do people sign up to be beta testers whenever a new 15 year-old with a permit gets behind the wheel? It's even crazier that we allow that. The cars that student drivers learn in typically do not have dual control so it's quite difficult to intervene. Every highschool has a story about how a student slammed the accelerator instead of the brake.
- nexuist 5y ago
  People in this thread seem to have overly high expectations about what is required to drive on US public roads. Not even considering that each state has its own licensing and registration requirements, all states except one (Georgia) accept foreign driver's licenses, which means it doesn't even matter what you regulate if countries X, Y, and Z can just not care about it and refuse to enforce it. Regulating self driving is a good idea but it's a tall order to cast beta software as the menace when there are more idiots driving on the roads at this moment than there will ever be Tesla products.

misiti3780 5y ago

How do you know the beta drivers did not get training?

SloopJon 5y ago
I said that they should. I don't know whether they do. A March 2021 tweet indicated that beta access will be as simple as pressing a "Download Beta" button in the car. A subsequent tweet said that the program had 2,000 owners, some of whom have had their access revoked for not paying enough attention to the road.

aeternum 5y ago

Do people sign up to be beta testers whenever a new 15 year-old with a permit gets behind the wheel? It's even crazier that we allow that. The cars that student drivers learn in typically do not have dual control so it's quite difficult to intervene. Every highschool has a story about how a student slammed the accelerator instead of the brake.

nexuist 5y ago
People in this thread seem to have overly high expectations about what is required to drive on US public roads. Not even considering that each state has its own licensing and registration requirements, all states except one (Georgia) accept foreign driver's licenses, which means it doesn't even matter what you regulate if countries X, Y, and Z can just not care about it and refuse to enforce it. Regulating self driving is a good idea but it's a tall order to cast beta software as the menace when there are more idiots driving on the roads at this moment than there will ever be Tesla products.