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Excellent idea. I suggest Athens, for the historical significance, and which also hosted the summer Olympics not too long ago, so the facilities are already the

by jabl 5y ago

Excellent idea. I suggest Athens, for the historical significance, and which also hosted the summer Olympics not too long ago, so the facilities are already there.

runnerup 5y ago
I enjoy this suggestion and would be reasonably happy with it. However I'd prefer the games be held somewhere with particularly good air quality. Right now Athens air quality is somewhat low, which could negatively affect results. Additionally, I'd worry about Greece's ability to host winter olympics in the future with continued climate/weather trends. While mountain air is often cleaner, I think sea level would be most appropriate, again for the fastest times for most events. Very short sprints (100m dash, for example) are faster at high altitudes. The lower oxygen content negatively affects medium and long distance events but the lower atmospheric drag more than compensates for short sprints. Perhaps you could hold it somewhere like California, Taiwan, Oman, or Alaska, where there are high mountains very close to the coast. That way you could hold events at whatever altitude is most optimal for performance, while minimizing travel distance between the venues. Anchorage seems like a fine choice at first. Great air quality but not so pristine that the infrastructure would ruin an unspoiled area. There are two mountain ranges within a couple-hour drive. However the tallest range (Alaska Range) is in an undeveloped national park so putting infrastructure there could be quite damaging. Also the tallest peak, Denali, is sacred to Native Americans. The Chugach range is much closer to Anchorage and has quite a bit of tourism infrastructure but the peaks are lower - 7,000 to 8,000 ft peaks vs the 11,000 to 20,000 ft of the undeveloped Alaska Range.
- Ichthypresbyter 5y ago
  Greece couldn't host the Winter Olympics now. While it has ski resorts which currently have fairly reliable snow, the FIS requirements for Olympic competition include a minimum 800m vertical drop for the downhill course. While some ski areas, such as Bjelasnica in Sarajevo, were able to meet this requirement by building a raised start structure, there's nowhere in Greece that even comes close.
jfkylymyn6 5y ago
Greece and especially ancient Greece is revered by white supremacy groups: https://www.vox.com/2019/11/6/20919221/alt-right-history-greece-rome-donna-zuckerberg https://www.vox.com/2019/11/6/20919221/alt-right-history-gre... So it would be impossible to host this permanent Olympic city in a European country, and especially not in Greece. If there were a permanent Olympic city, Equity would require it to be in a majority Black or Brown country.
- cpursley 5y ago
  This is quite a bizzar argument (which I've actually never heard before). I see the link, but can you elaborate on your reasoning?
  - jfkylymyn6 5y ago
    It's not my reasoning, it's the Progressive Left reasoning. Basically for everything you do, you need to ask a number of questions: How could this be perceived as racist? Does it elevate and center whiteness? Does it present Western Civilization as a positive thing? Etc...
- teddyh 5y ago
  To quote myself¹: Why is this a problem? Is it everyone’s duty to deny “white supremacists” in all things, to make sure you have absolutely nothing in common? If they tended to shave, would it then be the duty of every right-thinking man to grow a beard? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20139520 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20139520
labster 5y ago
I suggest Los Angeles, the site of the world’s only profitable Olympics. Most of the infrastructure is already built including permanent media space, sports venues, and entertainment venues. The main issue would be housing the athletes, and what could you morally do with housing between the games in a housing crisis.
- jdhn 5y ago
  Perhaps the reason no other Olympic area has been profitable is because they're basically a one and done? Personally, I think Greece and Athens is the logical choice due to the history behind the Olympics.
slumdev 5y ago
That's one way to keep Greece from defaulting or requiring a bailout every few years.

by jabl 5y ago

Excellent idea. I suggest Athens, for the historical significance, and which also hosted the summer Olympics not too long ago, so the facilities are already there.

runnerup 5y ago

I enjoy this suggestion and would be reasonably happy with it. However I'd prefer the games be held somewhere with particularly good air quality. Right now Athens air quality is somewhat low, which could negatively affect results. Additionally, I'd worry about Greece's ability to host winter olympics in the future with continued climate/weather trends. While mountain air is often cleaner, I think sea level would be most appropriate, again for the fastest times for most events. Very short sprints (100m dash, for example) are faster at high altitudes. The lower oxygen content negatively affects medium and long distance events but the lower atmospheric drag more than compensates for short sprints. Perhaps you could hold it somewhere like California, Taiwan, Oman, or Alaska, where there are high mountains very close to the coast. That way you could hold events at whatever altitude is most optimal for performance, while minimizing travel distance between the venues. Anchorage seems like a fine choice at first. Great air quality but not so pristine that the infrastructure would ruin an unspoiled area. There are two mountain ranges within a couple-hour drive. However the tallest range (Alaska Range) is in an undeveloped national park so putting infrastructure there could be quite damaging. Also the tallest peak, Denali, is sacred to Native Americans. The Chugach range is much closer to Anchorage and has quite a bit of tourism infrastructure but the peaks are lower - 7,000 to 8,000 ft peaks vs the 11,000 to 20,000 ft of the undeveloped Alaska Range.

Ichthypresbyter 5y ago
Greece couldn't host the Winter Olympics now. While it has ski resorts which currently have fairly reliable snow, the FIS requirements for Olympic competition include a minimum 800m vertical drop for the downhill course. While some ski areas, such as Bjelasnica in Sarajevo, were able to meet this requirement by building a raised start structure, there's nowhere in Greece that even comes close.

jfkylymyn6 5y ago

Greece and especially ancient Greece is revered by white supremacy groups: https://www.vox.com/2019/11/6/20919221/alt-right-history-greece-rome-donna-zuckerberg https://www.vox.com/2019/11/6/20919221/alt-right-history-gre... So it would be impossible to host this permanent Olympic city in a European country, and especially not in Greece. If there were a permanent Olympic city, Equity would require it to be in a majority Black or Brown country.

cpursley 5y ago
This is quite a bizzar argument (which I've actually never heard before). I see the link, but can you elaborate on your reasoning?
- jfkylymyn6 5y ago
  It's not my reasoning, it's the Progressive Left reasoning. Basically for everything you do, you need to ask a number of questions: How could this be perceived as racist? Does it elevate and center whiteness? Does it present Western Civilization as a positive thing? Etc...
teddyh 5y ago
To quote myself¹: Why is this a problem? Is it everyone’s duty to deny “white supremacists” in all things, to make sure you have absolutely nothing in common? If they tended to shave, would it then be the duty of every right-thinking man to grow a beard? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20139520 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20139520

labster 5y ago

I suggest Los Angeles, the site of the world’s only profitable Olympics. Most of the infrastructure is already built including permanent media space, sports venues, and entertainment venues. The main issue would be housing the athletes, and what could you morally do with housing between the games in a housing crisis.

jdhn 5y ago
Perhaps the reason no other Olympic area has been profitable is because they're basically a one and done? Personally, I think Greece and Athens is the logical choice due to the history behind the Olympics.

slumdev 5y ago

That's one way to keep Greece from defaulting or requiring a bailout every few years.