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> Losing weight is definitely healthier for anyone who is obese and the way you lose weight is to eat less. Period. Full stop. What if someone eats the same bu

> Losing weight is definitely healthier for anyone who is obese and the way you lose weight is to eat less. Period. Full stop. What if someone eats the same but creates the caloric deficit through increased exercise? Will they lose weight? Just like OP you want to simplify things as calories in/calories out while entirely ignoring calories out. Losing weight is not healthy in and of itself, even in obese people, however, losing weight can be a byproduct of making healthy dietary and lifestyle changes. Calories is just a unit of measurement of metabolic energy, that energy comes in 3 forms fat (ketones), glucose, and alcohol and is metabolized into energy (adp), but that energy production (metabolism) is more a measurement of health than a measurement of the total number of calories in. That is what you are ignoring. Edit: I’m sure you have lost your weight through eating less. But have you changed and improved the actual foods you consume also? Have you begun to burn more through improved dietary metabolism and/or increased exercise? I have a hard time believing one day you were eating nutritionally deficient and caloric dense foods and lost 150 by making no other changes than simply eating less of the same calorically dense and nutritionally deficient food. Even more unlikely would be you being obese eating low calories nutritionally dense foods, and lost 150lbs reducing the calories.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> What if someone eats the same but creates the caloric deficit through increased exercise? Will they lose weight? Yes, but there's a reason for the saying "you can't outrun a bad diet". I get it though, you're technically correct and that's the best kind according to meme science. > I’m sure you have lost your weight through eating less. But have you changed and improved the actual foods you consume also? Yes, because that's one of the things that makes it easier. Some foods are more satiating than others. And yes, I did increase in exercise. In fact, the exercise preceded the weight loss because the activity I took up (rock climbing) was what finally provided enough motivation for me to overcome my desire to eat more. > I have a hard time believing one day you were eating nutritionally deficient and caloric dense foods and lost 150 by making no other changes than simply eating less of the same calorically dense and nutritionally deficient food. It's harder, but definitely possible: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html#:~:text=(CNN)%20%2D%2D%20Twinkies.&text=The%20premise%20held%20up%3A%20On,than%201%2C800%20calories%20a%20day http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.... My point being, you can add all the exercise you want but if you're not paying attention to your caloric intake then chances are you're just going to eat more to make up for the expended calories.
defaultname 5y ago
How does it ignore it while specifically citing it, over and over again? However the basic reality is that it's a lot easier/achievable to significantly change calories in. Simple keeping your body and brain operating is actually a pretty energy expensive function, such that dramatically increasing your activity is only going to mildly increase your daily energy use. You can not eat that muffin....or exercise on the stair climber for an hour, for instance. As an aside, loads of exercise equipment and guides effectively lie about this by including basal calories with active calories, grossly overstating the calories "burned" by activities. So again, exercise. Eat healthy. But most importantly of all, eat less.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

> What if someone eats the same but creates the caloric deficit through increased exercise? Will they lose weight? Yes, but there's a reason for the saying "you can't outrun a bad diet". I get it though, you're technically correct and that's the best kind according to meme science. > I’m sure you have lost your weight through eating less. But have you changed and improved the actual foods you consume also? Yes, because that's one of the things that makes it easier. Some foods are more satiating than others. And yes, I did increase in exercise. In fact, the exercise preceded the weight loss because the activity I took up (rock climbing) was what finally provided enough motivation for me to overcome my desire to eat more. > I have a hard time believing one day you were eating nutritionally deficient and caloric dense foods and lost 150 by making no other changes than simply eating less of the same calorically dense and nutritionally deficient food. It's harder, but definitely possible: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html#:~:text=(CNN)%20%2D%2D%20Twinkies.&text=The%20premise%20held%20up%3A%20On,than%201%2C800%20calories%20a%20day http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.... My point being, you can add all the exercise you want but if you're not paying attention to your caloric intake then chances are you're just going to eat more to make up for the expended calories.

defaultname 5y ago

How does it ignore it while specifically citing it, over and over again? However the basic reality is that it's a lot easier/achievable to significantly change calories in. Simple keeping your body and brain operating is actually a pretty energy expensive function, such that dramatically increasing your activity is only going to mildly increase your daily energy use. You can not eat that muffin....or exercise on the stair climber for an hour, for instance. As an aside, loads of exercise equipment and guides effectively lie about this by including basal calories with active calories, grossly overstating the calories "burned" by activities. So again, exercise. Eat healthy. But most importantly of all, eat less.