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> Mystery 8: Diets Don’t Work As an obese person who tried several times to follow medical advise, this does not surprise me, not at all! Every diet is about

by pif 5y ago

> Mystery 8: Diets Don’t Work As an obese person who tried several times to follow medical advise, this does not surprise me, not at all! Every diet is about calories and sport, which cannot hurt. But every diet completely misses the elephant in the room: hunger! Any medical procedure is only worth pursuing if it gives you a higher quality of life in the long term. A constant hunger cannot compensate for any weight loss.

treeman79 5y ago
The Satiety Index is for measuring how satisfied you are with various food. Enter the humble potato. https://scottabelfitness.com/potato-and-the-satiety-index/ https://scottabelfitness.com/potato-and-the-satiety-index/ I did a sweet potato diet for a month a couple of years ago for medical reasons. I was never hungry.
garganzol 5y ago
Constant hunger is a hallmark sign of insulin resistance. The good thing is you can actually measure it in HOMA-IR test.
Ueland 5y ago
> But every diet completely misses the elephant in the room: hunger! And this is why a new drug just approved in the US for obesity is hailed as a game changed, NovoNordisk's semaglutide. (Wegovy) The "only" thing it does is mange the hunger levels in your body so you dont feel hungry all the time. I think there was a study back in February for it which gave something like a 15% weight loss after a year, *on average*.
- EMM_386 5y ago
  One such study is here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183
LQexplanation 5y ago
Metformin and myo-inositol solved this issue for me. Only after solving issues with pre-diabetes I was able to start losing weight without constant hunger.
wickoff 5y ago
I've always been a somewhat active person (at least 10 hours spent walking/cycling every week). Did it just because I liked it, but it never helped with weight loss. Switching cardio for resistance training (5x5) helped immensely with no changes in diet. My weight has dropped slightly, but my body composition changed a lot. Cardio became much easier after building some muscle mass. There is also something addictive to increasing the weight you can lift, fits right in with gamer/nerd mentality.
- handrous 5y ago
  I've found most cardio to have practically no weight-loss benefit for me, while weight lifting has way more than it should according to e.g. calorie-burn calculators or tables. All I can figure is that lifting does something to my metabolism, on the order of hours to days after, that running or cycling doesn't. Swimming also seems very effective, though I've not checked whether that effect's outside what's expected, or just normal.
gadders 5y ago
>> Any medical procedure is only worth pursuing if it gives you a higher quality of life in the long term. A constant hunger cannot compensate for any weight loss. As long as you're consciously making that trade off. Hunger vs shorter life, health conditions etc. I think that's a personal choice for the individual.

by pif 5y ago

treeman79 5y ago

The Satiety Index is for measuring how satisfied you are with various food. Enter the humble potato. https://scottabelfitness.com/potato-and-the-satiety-index/ https://scottabelfitness.com/potato-and-the-satiety-index/ I did a sweet potato diet for a month a couple of years ago for medical reasons. I was never hungry.

garganzol 5y ago

Constant hunger is a hallmark sign of insulin resistance. The good thing is you can actually measure it in HOMA-IR test.

Ueland 5y ago

> But every diet completely misses the elephant in the room: hunger! And this is why a new drug just approved in the US for obesity is hailed as a game changed, NovoNordisk's semaglutide. (Wegovy) The "only" thing it does is mange the hunger levels in your body so you dont feel hungry all the time. I think there was a study back in February for it which gave something like a 15% weight loss after a year, *on average*.

EMM_386 5y ago
One such study is here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183

LQexplanation 5y ago

Metformin and myo-inositol solved this issue for me. Only after solving issues with pre-diabetes I was able to start losing weight without constant hunger.

wickoff 5y ago

I've always been a somewhat active person (at least 10 hours spent walking/cycling every week). Did it just because I liked it, but it never helped with weight loss. Switching cardio for resistance training (5x5) helped immensely with no changes in diet. My weight has dropped slightly, but my body composition changed a lot. Cardio became much easier after building some muscle mass. There is also something addictive to increasing the weight you can lift, fits right in with gamer/nerd mentality.

handrous 5y ago
I've found most cardio to have practically no weight-loss benefit for me, while weight lifting has way more than it should according to e.g. calorie-burn calculators or tables. All I can figure is that lifting does something to my metabolism, on the order of hours to days after, that running or cycling doesn't. Swimming also seems very effective, though I've not checked whether that effect's outside what's expected, or just normal.

gadders 5y ago

>> Any medical procedure is only worth pursuing if it gives you a higher quality of life in the long term. A constant hunger cannot compensate for any weight loss. As long as you're consciously making that trade off. Hunger vs shorter life, health conditions etc. I think that's a personal choice for the individual.