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as far as state actors are concerned, it's state propaganda that 's the greatest threat and big tech is actually facilitating this because it's structurally con

as far as state actors are concerned, it's state propaganda that 's the greatest threat and big tech is actually facilitating this because it's structurally convenient for autocrats. For the rest, google is a company that can actually do things about the free internet, so actions are better than words here

Nasrudith 5y ago
Faciliating is a downright weasel word to insinuate complicity. Power lines facilitate power outages - without the transport there would be no power to out. And where the heck does the "Because it is structurally convenient to autocrats" conclusion come from and what the hell does that even mean? On another note does anybody else notice the inherent contradiction and massive exploitability of the "state propaganda is a threat" line that is so common? Deciding what speech from foreign governments goes against their agenda and declaring it a threat is itself propaganda.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  > Faciliating is a downright weasel word to insinuate complicity. That's not ruled out. Big tech employs thousands of people who may or may not be bought out to cover the tracks of authoritarians, even if we assume (absurdly) that their leadership are saints. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-... > structurally convenient Social media are centralized, have no direct interest in the stability of the country they operate in, are not in any control from the users of the target country, are perceived as neutral by said users, YET they are in control of the government where they operate in, and certain countries often run campaigns targetted against their own citizens. They generally don't investigate such actions until after the fact, and in fact i ve only seen facebook doing somewhat serious attempts to catch them in the act e.g. https://about.fb.com/news/2020/10/removing-coordinated-inauthentic-behavior-september-report/ https://about.fb.com/news/2020/10/removing-coordinated-inaut...

Nasrudith 5y ago

Faciliating is a downright weasel word to insinuate complicity. Power lines facilitate power outages - without the transport there would be no power to out. And where the heck does the "Because it is structurally convenient to autocrats" conclusion come from and what the hell does that even mean? On another note does anybody else notice the inherent contradiction and massive exploitability of the "state propaganda is a threat" line that is so common? Deciding what speech from foreign governments goes against their agenda and declaring it a threat is itself propaganda.

cblconfederate 5y ago
> Faciliating is a downright weasel word to insinuate complicity. That's not ruled out. Big tech employs thousands of people who may or may not be bought out to cover the tracks of authoritarians, even if we assume (absurdly) that their leadership are saints. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-... > structurally convenient Social media are centralized, have no direct interest in the stability of the country they operate in, are not in any control from the users of the target country, are perceived as neutral by said users, YET they are in control of the government where they operate in, and certain countries often run campaigns targetted against their own citizens. They generally don't investigate such actions until after the fact, and in fact i ve only seen facebook doing somewhat serious attempts to catch them in the act e.g. https://about.fb.com/news/2020/10/removing-coordinated-inauthentic-behavior-september-report/ https://about.fb.com/news/2020/10/removing-coordinated-inaut...