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It is not about 'nature' as some mystical attribute. It is about the basic physical limitations of reality. The restrictions instituted by normal property are
by hxa7241 15y ago
It is not about 'nature' as some mystical attribute. It is about the basic physical limitations of reality.
The restrictions instituted by normal property are grounded in the actual restrictions of physical reality. The restrictions instituted by 'intellectual property' have no such grounding.
> If I tell a guy my idea, and he implements it trivially with huge profit, then the loss is very real to me.
It is not real at all, and it justifies nothing.
If something is physically taken from you, you lose it -- whether there is any law or not. If someone else makes money, you lose nothing -- the idea of loss you present is entirely dependent on assuming there is a law supporting it. A law cannot be justified by itself; that is circular.
- Meai 15y agoSee, again you are using a definition of real that suits you. This doesn't mean it's correct or even that it makes sense. What your argument boils down to is: "Thoughts are not real". Is that a really a stand that you want to take? edit: Maybe I should give you an abundantly clear example of how your interpretation of reality is wrong: Imagine two businessmen come to you with the same idea, but you can only give one of them funding. Did the other man lose anything tangible? No, all that money was never real by your definition. For him it was hypothetical money. But no one in their right minds would argue that the second man didn't lose anything. The same way software pirates argue: "We aren't taking away anything. There was never any real money to begin with." That may be, but they lost the opportunity to make money which is just as real.
- nate_meurer 15y agoYou're chasing your own semantic tail here. The point that the parents are making is that copyright is an artificial subjugation of immaterial goods to behaviors and laws that naturally apply only to material goods. Ideas and expressions, by nature, entertain no notion of scarcity. Copyright is an attempt to artificially introduce scarcity and grant control to the newly rarefied goods. This process is, by nature, fraught with contrivance, and thus prone to abuse and ludicrous corner cases, such as the case where a monkey steals a guy's camera, and the guy then claims ownership of the monkey's work.