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The Witcher (and now cyberpunk) series is the proof of that: insanely successful sale wise and 0 drm of any kind. Make a good game and it'll sale.

bool3max 5y ago
Except the latter is not good, just aggressively marketed.
- nix23 5y ago
  That's a "taste" thing. I think it's a great game...but not the advertised one.
  - wccrawford 5y ago
    Agreed. Plus, I enjoyed Cyberpunk more than Witcher, even after trying all 3. I didn't refund them, but I sure thought about it.
  - binarybanana 5y ago
    It's more of an immersive sim than an RPG. It even encourages stealth play heavily in a lot of missions with explicit optional goals and by the way many mechanics are designed in general. If enemies were more intelligent about looking for the player instead of just standing around when becoming suspicious it could easily match the best of the genre like Deus Ex. Sadly CDPR seems to be fixing the wrong things. They even took out great accidental mechanics like the dodge boost, which was incredibly fun and added a lot of depth to the way you could move around the city. A lot of places aren't even accessible without it. You aren't supposed to go there, but a lot of areas reachable with just the double jump a bugged, too. Even without any mods you can reach a few out of bounds areas... I think removing the dodge boost is as if id had "fixed" the double jump instead of rolling with it. Similar with the slide invincibility glitch. I can see why they fixed that, but some way to jump from great highs is really necessary in a place as vertical as Night City. They replaced it with.. nothing. They also made most consumables useless by roving the ability to disassemble them instead of fixing the economy. There's literally no point in any of the drinks now. You also can't re-roll the stats of any legendary gear you find, so if it doesn't have any slots for mods it's useless. And other things. I honestly think that it was a better game at version 1.04. Performance was better, too.
- krige 5y ago
  It's just as good as the witcher and exhibits precisely the same strengths and flaws, just in a different setting. Especially with regards to the day one state of the game and patching not really doing all that much in the first year.
msk-lywenn 5y ago
That’s survivor bias, not proof.
mywittyname 5y ago
It helps that they have predicable pricing models. You can pay $60 for day-one access to any of those games, you can wait a year to get them for $60 for the game plus a DLC, or just the game for $40. As time passes, their prices decay until you can get the full game plus DLC for $10 on sale. This is great for people like me. I have no problem paying for day-one access for a game I really want to play on the first day (Cyberpunk), but I'll often load up on games when they hit that "bargain bin" price so that I have a backlog of potentially fun games to play.

bool3max 5y ago

Except the latter is not good, just aggressively marketed.

nix23 5y ago
That's a "taste" thing. I think it's a great game...but not the advertised one.
- wccrawford 5y ago
  Agreed. Plus, I enjoyed Cyberpunk more than Witcher, even after trying all 3. I didn't refund them, but I sure thought about it.
- binarybanana 5y ago
  It's more of an immersive sim than an RPG. It even encourages stealth play heavily in a lot of missions with explicit optional goals and by the way many mechanics are designed in general. If enemies were more intelligent about looking for the player instead of just standing around when becoming suspicious it could easily match the best of the genre like Deus Ex. Sadly CDPR seems to be fixing the wrong things. They even took out great accidental mechanics like the dodge boost, which was incredibly fun and added a lot of depth to the way you could move around the city. A lot of places aren't even accessible without it. You aren't supposed to go there, but a lot of areas reachable with just the double jump a bugged, too. Even without any mods you can reach a few out of bounds areas... I think removing the dodge boost is as if id had "fixed" the double jump instead of rolling with it. Similar with the slide invincibility glitch. I can see why they fixed that, but some way to jump from great highs is really necessary in a place as vertical as Night City. They replaced it with.. nothing. They also made most consumables useless by roving the ability to disassemble them instead of fixing the economy. There's literally no point in any of the drinks now. You also can't re-roll the stats of any legendary gear you find, so if it doesn't have any slots for mods it's useless. And other things. I honestly think that it was a better game at version 1.04. Performance was better, too.
krige 5y ago
It's just as good as the witcher and exhibits precisely the same strengths and flaws, just in a different setting. Especially with regards to the day one state of the game and patching not really doing all that much in the first year.

msk-lywenn 5y ago

That’s survivor bias, not proof.

mywittyname 5y ago

It helps that they have predicable pricing models. You can pay $60 for day-one access to any of those games, you can wait a year to get them for $60 for the game plus a DLC, or just the game for $40. As time passes, their prices decay until you can get the full game plus DLC for $10 on sale. This is great for people like me. I have no problem paying for day-one access for a game I really want to play on the first day (Cyberpunk), but I'll often load up on games when they hit that "bargain bin" price so that I have a backlog of potentially fun games to play.