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Bull. Shit. "We got situated in the store, double checked with an employee that it was ok to shoot video" There was no consent to install software onto their

Bull. Shit. "We got situated in the store, double checked with an employee that it was ok to shoot video" There was no consent to install software onto their computers. They just tried to find some consent loophole.

sellyme 5y ago
> There was no consent to install software onto their computers. Higher up in the article when the author first introduces the software, they say this line: > I just had to double check with an employee. Very vague, yes. It's entirely plausible that the author deliberately hid details in that discussion, or just unintentionally communicated it poorly. But in the absence of any evidence towards that, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the author is telling the truth.
- yupper32 5y ago
  > Very vague, yes. It's entirely plausible that the author deliberately hid details in that discussion, or just unintentionally communicated it poorly. But in the absence of any evidence towards that, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the author is telling the truth. The author wrote a 9,401 word blog post and you think it's possible they were vague with that one aspect of the story for anything other than concealing the truth? Yeah, hard no. That, and without explicit information about this situation, it is not reasonable to think asking an apple store employee "can I install software on your computers" would get a yes.
  - sellyme 5y ago
    > The author wrote a 9,401 word blog post and you think it's possible they were vague with that one aspect of the story for anything other than concealing the truth? Yes. For starters, it's referencing a conversation that occurred a decade prior. Maybe your memory is better than mine, but I definitely can't remember anything except the absolute vaguest of details from conversations I had in 2011. > That, and [...] it is not reasonable to think asking an apple store employee "can I install software on your computers" would get a yes. I have personal experience from that era in getting distributed computing clients set up on dozens or hundreds of computers in various institutes (schools, universities, gaming cafes, etc), and it was usually a fairly frictionless process. Times have definitely changed, and I suspect it would be way harder to do that now (and outright impossible at an Apple store), but that concept isn't at all unbelievable to me.
    - yupper32 5y ago
      > Yes. For starters, it's referencing a conversation that occurred a decade prior. Maybe your memory is better than mine, but I definitely can't remember anything except the absolute vaguest of details from conversations I had in 2011. "Hey remember that time I bugged the Apple store?" "Haha yeah man, did you ever get permission to do that?" "No idea! But I did get permission to film people's reactions!" Yeah ok... This isn't something you forget. You've had law enforcement down your neck for part of it. With a Grand Jury involved. This isn't some random conversation at a party in 2011. This is you committing a crime and having the US government follow up on that crime shortly after, with probably many conversations with lawyers, etc.

sellyme 5y ago

> There was no consent to install software onto their computers. Higher up in the article when the author first introduces the software, they say this line: > I just had to double check with an employee. Very vague, yes. It's entirely plausible that the author deliberately hid details in that discussion, or just unintentionally communicated it poorly. But in the absence of any evidence towards that, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the author is telling the truth.

yupper32 5y ago
> Very vague, yes. It's entirely plausible that the author deliberately hid details in that discussion, or just unintentionally communicated it poorly. But in the absence of any evidence towards that, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the author is telling the truth. The author wrote a 9,401 word blog post and you think it's possible they were vague with that one aspect of the story for anything other than concealing the truth? Yeah, hard no. That, and without explicit information about this situation, it is not reasonable to think asking an apple store employee "can I install software on your computers" would get a yes.
- sellyme 5y ago
  > The author wrote a 9,401 word blog post and you think it's possible they were vague with that one aspect of the story for anything other than concealing the truth? Yes. For starters, it's referencing a conversation that occurred a decade prior. Maybe your memory is better than mine, but I definitely can't remember anything except the absolute vaguest of details from conversations I had in 2011. > That, and [...] it is not reasonable to think asking an apple store employee "can I install software on your computers" would get a yes. I have personal experience from that era in getting distributed computing clients set up on dozens or hundreds of computers in various institutes (schools, universities, gaming cafes, etc), and it was usually a fairly frictionless process. Times have definitely changed, and I suspect it would be way harder to do that now (and outright impossible at an Apple store), but that concept isn't at all unbelievable to me.
  - yupper32 5y ago
    > Yes. For starters, it's referencing a conversation that occurred a decade prior. Maybe your memory is better than mine, but I definitely can't remember anything except the absolute vaguest of details from conversations I had in 2011. "Hey remember that time I bugged the Apple store?" "Haha yeah man, did you ever get permission to do that?" "No idea! But I did get permission to film people's reactions!" Yeah ok... This isn't something you forget. You've had law enforcement down your neck for part of it. With a Grand Jury involved. This isn't some random conversation at a party in 2011. This is you committing a crime and having the US government follow up on that crime shortly after, with probably many conversations with lawyers, etc.