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Well they can't blame AWS. AWS status pages shows no issues. (Although it never does even when there are)

irjustin 5y ago
AWS and Amazon run on completely separate systems/hardware. Amazon's internal, last i read, was years behind AWS's infrastructure and they're generally jealous of not having the same tools available. I tried finding the article, but maybe someone else can help me remember?
- sudhirj 5y ago
  There was apparently always some kind of mix (AWS did start from internal requirements, though it quickly diverged). The OG services like S3 and DynamoDB power a lot of Amazon for sure. There’s been more bed of Amazon moving to AWS, most recently talk about shifting their main DBs.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  That hasn't been 100% true for like four years. Most new things in Retail are built on AWS.
  - busymom0 5y ago
    Are you certain? As of last year, Amazon was switching to Fastly for their retain images: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-homepage.html https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - pjbeam 5y ago
      Some retail is definitely on AWS. Source: I work at AWS.
- sofixa 5y ago
  A few years back Amazon did a party for moving their warehouses off Oracle databases and into AWS Aurora, so that's not entirely true
- ranman 5y ago
  This is incorrect. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/prime-day-2021-two-chart-topping-days/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/prime-day-2021-two-chart-to...
anonymousiam 5y ago
I actually tried shopping on Amazon.com from AWS just to see if it was something local to me. Nope! I couldn't see any products or add them to my cart from AWS.
- judge2020 5y ago
  Can you normally do this?
  - anonymousiam 5y ago
    Yes. I can ssh into an AWS instance and run Firefox with a remote X display. whatismyipaddress.com shows that I'm in the AWS datacenter. I can also run a WireGuard VPN with AWS as the endpoint. The second way works better on slow connections.
busymom0 5y ago
Amazon uses Fastly instead of AWS at a lot of their product pages: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-homepage.html https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...
- yftsui 5y ago
  That’s just CDN, not the real service.
  - carlsborg 5y ago
    Well, AWS does have a strong CDN offering called Cloudfront so it is surprising.
    - paavohtl 5y ago
      My understanding is that Fastly has a lot more edge locations than AWS, so using their image CDN results in lower latencies for many users than they could achieve with Cloudfront alone.
      - aaron42net 5y ago
        It's not edge location count that matters, but Cloudfront doesn't use BGP Anycast but rather does a more traditional DNS-based routing and tries to spread the requests across multiple edge locations (even those farther away) for redundancy, intentionally. When I asked for detail about why they don't use Anycast, the Cloudfront engineering team basically said their customers care more about uptime than latency and that full Anycast was too sketchy. Apparently amazon.com disagrees, at least. I'm also happy getting much lower first page view latency out of Cloudflare.

AWS and Amazon run on completely separate systems/hardware. Amazon's internal, last i read, was years behind AWS's infrastructure and they're generally jealous of not having the same tools available. I tried finding the article, but maybe someone else can help me remember?

sudhirj 5y ago
There was apparently always some kind of mix (AWS did start from internal requirements, though it quickly diverged). The OG services like S3 and DynamoDB power a lot of Amazon for sure. There’s been more bed of Amazon moving to AWS, most recently talk about shifting their main DBs.
rejectedandsad 5y ago
That hasn't been 100% true for like four years. Most new things in Retail are built on AWS.
- busymom0 5y ago
  Are you certain? As of last year, Amazon was switching to Fastly for their retain images: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-homepage.html https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - pjbeam 5y ago
    Some retail is definitely on AWS. Source: I work at AWS.
sofixa 5y ago
A few years back Amazon did a party for moving their warehouses off Oracle databases and into AWS Aurora, so that's not entirely true
ranman 5y ago
This is incorrect. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/prime-day-2021-two-chart-topping-days/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/prime-day-2021-two-chart-to...

anonymousiam 5y ago

I actually tried shopping on Amazon.com from AWS just to see if it was something local to me. Nope! I couldn't see any products or add them to my cart from AWS.

judge2020 5y ago
Can you normally do this?
- anonymousiam 5y ago
  Yes. I can ssh into an AWS instance and run Firefox with a remote X display. whatismyipaddress.com shows that I'm in the AWS datacenter. I can also run a WireGuard VPN with AWS as the endpoint. The second way works better on slow connections.

busymom0 5y ago

Amazon uses Fastly instead of AWS at a lot of their product pages: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-homepage.html https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...

yftsui 5y ago
That’s just CDN, not the real service.
- carlsborg 5y ago
  Well, AWS does have a strong CDN offering called Cloudfront so it is surprising.
  - paavohtl 5y ago
    My understanding is that Fastly has a lot more edge locations than AWS, so using their image CDN results in lower latencies for many users than they could achieve with Cloudfront alone.
    - aaron42net 5y ago
      It's not edge location count that matters, but Cloudfront doesn't use BGP Anycast but rather does a more traditional DNS-based routing and tries to spread the requests across multiple edge locations (even those farther away) for redundancy, intentionally. When I asked for detail about why they don't use Anycast, the Cloudfront engineering team basically said their customers care more about uptime than latency and that full Anycast was too sketchy. Apparently amazon.com disagrees, at least. I'm also happy getting much lower first page view latency out of Cloudflare.