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For anyone considering trying this, I strongly recommend: - informing yourself as much as possible (and then some) about this substance[1][2] - not doing this
by pmoriarty 5y ago
For anyone considering trying this, I strongly recommend:
- informing yourself as much as possible (and then some) about this substance[1][2]
- not doing this alone
- reading and following the guidelines of The Conclave[3]
- very carefully vetting the people you're entrusting your safety to[4][5][6][7]
[1] - https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/5-meo-dmt https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/5-meo-dmt
[2] - https://erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt.shtml https://erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt.shtml
[3] - https://theconclave.info/ https://theconclave.info/
[4] - https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86872 https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86872
[5] - https://entheonation.com/blog/death-fraud-octavio-rettig-gerry-sandoval/ https://entheonation.com/blog/death-fraud-octavio-rettig-ger...
[6] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsSN4p1cLrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsSN4p1cLrM
[7] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQctOMSmBuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQctOMSmBuk
- perardi 5y ago- not doing this alone - very carefully vetting the people you're entrusting your safety to Agreed, strongly. Set and setting are important for psychedelics. They should ideally be taken in a comfortable environment with people you trust…and hopefully they’re not tripping as well. Or at least, they have experience. The first time I took LSD was by myself. That was…perhaps not the best idea. It turned out fine, but whoo, it was a lot.
- jahnu 5y agoAlso just want to emphasize how correct this is. And yeah wow on your own the first time. Damn. I was with 2 others taking and 2 people not to guide in a comfortable environment and it was a lot even then. It's just an incomparable experience and while bad trips are actually very very rare and you should not worry about them if you've prepared everything else right, the experience is still just.. well.. wow!
- loves_mangoes 5y agoI've always tripped alone, as an introvert, and I love having the whole space to myself and just having a good time without worrying about other people too much Agree with all the above, but I'd also emphasize dosage. I think I remember a study that showed the risk of people having a bad reaction is very clearly correlated to taking too much. Which should be pretty obvious. Start slow! You can always take more.
- pmoriarty 5y agoThe main risks of doing 5-MeO-DMT alone are: 1 - you can vomit and choke on your own vomit while being completely out of your body and without any consciousness of the outside world or bodily control 2 - some people move around a lot on it, while being effectively unconscious of the world around them... this can cause them to hit their head or otherwise injure themselves So it's much safer to have someone watching over you.. someone who is trained to put you in to the recovery position if you start vomiting, and to otherwise keep you physically safe.
- loves_mangoes 5y agoAbsolutely, that sounds like very good advice for 5-MeO-DMT specifically.
- xkcd-sucks 5y agoCounterpoint to the "alone"/"trup sitter" thing - If you are prone to feeling socially anxious, if you trust yourself more than other people, amd if you trust yourself to avoid dangerous/embarassing situations - It's possible that having people around specifically tasked to observe your mental state might be more harm that help. Personally I can think of one psychedelic experience that became very unpleasant (though educational!) simply because I felt the people around me thought I was insane.
- pmoriarty 5y agoYou could die from choking on your own vomit or physically injure yourself from moving around without being conscious of the outside world while under the influence of 5-MeO-DMT. This is why you want someone around, so they can keep you safe. So I'd say the risk of being uncomfortable with people around is of less potential harm than of dying or physically injuring yourself if you're by yourself and something goes wrong. Besides, once you've blasted off on a serious dose the outside world disappears and as far as you're concerned no one else is there but you (sometimes not even you). But, yeah, if being around others makes you anxious then maybe you won't be in the best frame of mind when you do it (you want to maximize feeling good).. but still better that than being dead or injured, imo.