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Authors, publish your papers in your personal webpage. Do not promote paywalls. To all others, donate and support decentralization efforts. To those that are pa

by 533474 5y ago

Authors, publish your papers in your personal webpage. Do not promote paywalls. To all others, donate and support decentralization efforts. To those that are particularly wealthy, please think about supporting financially too

lalaland1125 5y ago
There is no need for publishing papers on personal websites when arxiv exists and is better.
- 6510 5y ago
  Do both.
- kensai 5y ago
  Arxiv is preprint. Not peer-reviewed. Most times reviewed articles have critical changes before they reach their final, journal version.
  - petschge 5y ago
    Most if not all journals in my field allow you to upload the final accepted PDF that you have typeset in latex yourself to arxiv. We even put "accepted in $journal" and the DOI in the comment field. This includes all the changes you have made in response to referee comments. What you can not upload is the finial language-edited and nicely layouted version that the journal has build from your submission.
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  - remram 5y ago
    arXiv is not only for pre-printed. Whatever paper you legally put on your website can and should go there (or Zenodo, Figshare, OSF, etc).
logifail 5y ago
> publish your papers in your personal webpage Q: Do authors actually _have_ the right to republish the final published version from the journal they submitted their work to?
- goerz 5y ago
  All journals I have ever published to (in theoretical physics) explicitly allow the authors to put the journal PDF of their article on their personal or institutional websites. They also allow to have a "reprint" (identical content to published version, but not the exact same PDF) to be on the arXiv. I'm not aware of any journals in the field that don't allow this. I'm sure they exist, but I would not consider them for publication.
  - logifail 5y ago
    > explicitly allow the authors to put the journal PDF of their article on their personal or institutional websites Q: Where is an author supposed to _obtain_ the final, "official" journal-approved PDFs in order to republish them? Unless I head for sci-hub, I don't have any of mine :(
    - goerz 5y ago
      You usually have institutional access. If not, I suppose you can ask the publisher to email you the pdf. Or you might be able to download it from the the submission website. I don’t understand: you really don’t have PDFs of your own papers? Did you leave academia and delete your data?
      - logifail 5y ago
        > You usually [..] I suppose [..] you might The big publishers have worked very hard to step this being straightforward :( > You really don’t have PDFs of your own papers? Absolutely not. Where would I have _legally_ have got them from? (This was 25 years ago) For my first paper, I have a copy of the paper journal for that month, kept as a souvenir. > Did you leave academia Yes > and delete your data? No!
jasode 5y ago
>Authors, publish your papers in your personal webpage. Do not promote paywalls. This plea to authors to change their behavior ignores why they submit papers to paywall publishers: The prestigious journal's acceptance of their paper helps promote their career. Academic publishing is not a web host server for pdf files type of problem. Therefore, suggesting authors to upload their pdf to a public Dropbox url, GoogleDrive, Github repo, or their university faculty homepage doesn't solve the real problem. So even if Scihub had a "direct upload pdf" option, that still doesn't solve the underlying problem for getting their paper recognized for good work which spurs citations. Scihub is a distribution mechanism for pdfs but not a recognition and impact filter for which papers are _important_. This is why scientists keep doing contradictory behaviors: On the one hand, they praise Scihub because it gives them access to papers -- but on the other hand, they keep submitting to paywalled journals to help their career. Think of game theory incentives instead of hosting pdf files. Journals have the respected editorial staffs to look at their submitted paper and forward it to other peers for review. OpenAccess is a possible option but most OA journals don't have same prestige as the paywalled journals. That may change but it will take a long time.
- ufo 5y ago
  I think the parent posted was referring to also uploading a preprint of the paper to your website, in addition to submitting it to a prestigeous journal.

by 533474 5y ago

lalaland1125 5y ago

There is no need for publishing papers on personal websites when arxiv exists and is better.

6510 5y ago
Do both.
kensai 5y ago
Arxiv is preprint. Not peer-reviewed. Most times reviewed articles have critical changes before they reach their final, journal version.
- petschge 5y ago
  Most if not all journals in my field allow you to upload the final accepted PDF that you have typeset in latex yourself to arxiv. We even put "accepted in $journal" and the DOI in the comment field. This includes all the changes you have made in response to referee comments. What you can not upload is the finial language-edited and nicely layouted version that the journal has build from your submission.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- remram 5y ago
  arXiv is not only for pre-printed. Whatever paper you legally put on your website can and should go there (or Zenodo, Figshare, OSF, etc).

logifail 5y ago

> publish your papers in your personal webpage Q: Do authors actually _have_ the right to republish the final published version from the journal they submitted their work to?

goerz 5y ago
All journals I have ever published to (in theoretical physics) explicitly allow the authors to put the journal PDF of their article on their personal or institutional websites. They also allow to have a "reprint" (identical content to published version, but not the exact same PDF) to be on the arXiv. I'm not aware of any journals in the field that don't allow this. I'm sure they exist, but I would not consider them for publication.
- logifail 5y ago
  > explicitly allow the authors to put the journal PDF of their article on their personal or institutional websites Q: Where is an author supposed to _obtain_ the final, "official" journal-approved PDFs in order to republish them? Unless I head for sci-hub, I don't have any of mine :(
  - goerz 5y ago
    You usually have institutional access. If not, I suppose you can ask the publisher to email you the pdf. Or you might be able to download it from the the submission website. I don’t understand: you really don’t have PDFs of your own papers? Did you leave academia and delete your data?
    - logifail 5y ago
      > You usually [..] I suppose [..] you might The big publishers have worked very hard to step this being straightforward :( > You really don’t have PDFs of your own papers? Absolutely not. Where would I have _legally_ have got them from? (This was 25 years ago) For my first paper, I have a copy of the paper journal for that month, kept as a souvenir. > Did you leave academia Yes > and delete your data? No!

jasode 5y ago

>Authors, publish your papers in your personal webpage. Do not promote paywalls. This plea to authors to change their behavior ignores why they submit papers to paywall publishers: The prestigious journal's acceptance of their paper helps promote their career. Academic publishing is not a web host server for pdf files type of problem. Therefore, suggesting authors to upload their pdf to a public Dropbox url, GoogleDrive, Github repo, or their university faculty homepage doesn't solve the real problem. So even if Scihub had a "direct upload pdf" option, that still doesn't solve the underlying problem for getting their paper recognized for good work which spurs citations. Scihub is a distribution mechanism for pdfs but not a recognition and impact filter for which papers are _important_. This is why scientists keep doing contradictory behaviors: On the one hand, they praise Scihub because it gives them access to papers -- but on the other hand, they keep submitting to paywalled journals to help their career. Think of game theory incentives instead of hosting pdf files. Journals have the respected editorial staffs to look at their submitted paper and forward it to other peers for review. OpenAccess is a possible option but most OA journals don't have same prestige as the paywalled journals. That may change but it will take a long time.

ufo 5y ago
I think the parent posted was referring to also uploading a preprint of the paper to your website, in addition to submitting it to a prestigeous journal.