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Perhaps we would look at the donations to see if this is likely or not?

by SV_BubbleTime 5y ago

jedmeyers 5y ago
Is buying a son’s painting considered a donation or not?
- mathisonturing 5y ago
  Elaborate? Out of the loop
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    It's a game of "Spot the Fox News viewer". If you're a fan, you believe the largest ethical quandary facing the nation in the last quarter-century is that a person related to the President of the United States is selling a painting in an anonymous auction. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-ethics-chief-hunter-biden-art-deal-secret https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-ethics-chief-hunter-b...
    - SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
      While I detest bias in all media (Fox included but in no way do they have a monopoly on)… Are you saying Hunter Biden (the son of, not just “a person related to”) hasn’t recently sold his artwork for $500,000 a pop to anonymous buyers?
      - jeffbee 5y ago
        As I understand it from reputable reporting, all such sales are hypothetical. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deal-of-the-art-white-house-grapples-with-ethics-of-hunter-bidens-pricey-paintings/2021/07/07/97e0528c-da72-11eb-9bbb-37c30dcf9363_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deal-of-the-art-whit...
    - zepto 5y ago
      > a person related to the President of the United States The sitting president’s son, you mean?
    - specialist 5y ago
      I vividly remember when Billy Beer was a scandal. Simpler times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Beer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Beer
  - cabaalis 5y ago
    Here's an article from the NYT about how they are trying to ethically sell Hunter Biden's artwork. "Ethically sell" was a term I chose specifically because Hunter Biden is not an artist, and the question of why his paintings are being sold for half a million dollars and to whom is substance. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/us/politics/hunter-biden-art-sale.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/us/politics/hunter-biden-... Edit: Anyone can be an artist of course. Selling artwork for such a price would be quite an artist.
    - SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
      > Anyone can be an artist of course. Selling artwork for such a price would be quite an artist Quite an artist indeed. Here is a Picasso that sold last month for $150,000. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/104029896_pablo-picasso-1881-1973 https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/104029896_pablo-picasso...
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  That's anonymous - there's no way for the Biden's to ever know the buyer. Of course, the buyer can just show them a picture of the painting in their house or whatever but that would be unethical.
  - qeternity 5y ago
    > Of course, the buyer can just show them a picture of the painting in their house or whatever but that would be unethical. Unethical, yes…something which a good chunk of society have no qualms with, especially those in the business of bribing politicians.
  - alea_iacta_est 5y ago
    It's unethical for the public to know who's the buyer, that's what they meant.
- jjeaff 5y ago
  No. In what world does buying setting from an adult relative consist of a donation? And if a foreign government overpaying for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hotel stays in properties owned by the politician is not considered a donation, I can't imagine anyone thinking the painting thing would be.
ErikVandeWater 5y ago
Don't know why your downvoted for asking a basic question. Career politicians do not betray those who fund their campaigns, especially in the highest office.

Perhaps we would look at the donations to see if this is likely or not?

jedmeyers 5y ago

Is buying a son’s painting considered a donation or not?

mathisonturing 5y ago
Elaborate? Out of the loop
- jeffbee 5y ago
  It's a game of "Spot the Fox News viewer". If you're a fan, you believe the largest ethical quandary facing the nation in the last quarter-century is that a person related to the President of the United States is selling a painting in an anonymous auction. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-ethics-chief-hunter-biden-art-deal-secret https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-ethics-chief-hunter-b...
  - SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
    While I detest bias in all media (Fox included but in no way do they have a monopoly on)… Are you saying Hunter Biden (the son of, not just “a person related to”) hasn’t recently sold his artwork for $500,000 a pop to anonymous buyers?
    - jeffbee 5y ago
      As I understand it from reputable reporting, all such sales are hypothetical. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deal-of-the-art-white-house-grapples-with-ethics-of-hunter-bidens-pricey-paintings/2021/07/07/97e0528c-da72-11eb-9bbb-37c30dcf9363_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deal-of-the-art-whit...
  - zepto 5y ago
    > a person related to the President of the United States The sitting president’s son, you mean?
  - specialist 5y ago
    I vividly remember when Billy Beer was a scandal. Simpler times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Beer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Beer
- cabaalis 5y ago
  Here's an article from the NYT about how they are trying to ethically sell Hunter Biden's artwork. "Ethically sell" was a term I chose specifically because Hunter Biden is not an artist, and the question of why his paintings are being sold for half a million dollars and to whom is substance. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/us/politics/hunter-biden-art-sale.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/us/politics/hunter-biden-... Edit: Anyone can be an artist of course. Selling artwork for such a price would be quite an artist.
  - SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
    > Anyone can be an artist of course. Selling artwork for such a price would be quite an artist Quite an artist indeed. Here is a Picasso that sold last month for $150,000. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/104029896_pablo-picasso-1881-1973 https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/104029896_pablo-picasso...
oh_sigh 5y ago
That's anonymous - there's no way for the Biden's to ever know the buyer. Of course, the buyer can just show them a picture of the painting in their house or whatever but that would be unethical.
- qeternity 5y ago
  > Of course, the buyer can just show them a picture of the painting in their house or whatever but that would be unethical. Unethical, yes…something which a good chunk of society have no qualms with, especially those in the business of bribing politicians.
- alea_iacta_est 5y ago
  It's unethical for the public to know who's the buyer, that's what they meant.
jjeaff 5y ago
No. In what world does buying setting from an adult relative consist of a donation? And if a foreign government overpaying for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hotel stays in properties owned by the politician is not considered a donation, I can't imagine anyone thinking the painting thing would be.

ErikVandeWater 5y ago

Don't know why your downvoted for asking a basic question. Career politicians do not betray those who fund their campaigns, especially in the highest office.