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Well if you are happy that you found someone that can follow a checklist then fine. I doubt the top tier grad would want that type of job anyway.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
Do you know how many hundred top tier chemical and nuclear scientists died while "following the checklist"? Look up Demon Core
- Google234 5y ago
  1, you are now really exaggerating. 2, this analogy is really straying far from software engineering. 3, what is your point here?
- oriolid 5y ago
  IIRC the work with Demon Core was described as "tickling the dragon's tail", not "following the checklist". Wikipedia also mentions "Slotin's own unapproved protocol".
  - Google234 5y ago
    Also how could there be a checklist? They were literally pioneers
    - oriolid 5y ago
      An easy way to create one would be to ask "what could go wrong" and "how bad would it be", then develop procedures to minimize the risk.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    You are right, it's a different point - just trying to illustrate that being some of the smartest people on earth doesnt mean you wont make a terrible mistake or will have good judgement. Like they knew it was super dangerous, there wasn't new science discovered since then about this particular setup. Today rank and file engineers know not to do that
- RichardCA 5y ago
  Not calling you out, but where did you get the number deaths > 100 from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_accident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_accident
- chha 5y ago
  Problem was, there was no real checklist. They were part of a huge number of people who have created the checklists, partly as a result of lessons learned after making mistakes resulting in death and destruction.
exdsq 5y ago
Out of interest with your name Google234, are you a student or early employee? You seem to be very certain about things in your comments here but I'm unsure if they come from experience or speculation.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

Do you know how many hundred top tier chemical and nuclear scientists died while "following the checklist"? Look up Demon Core

Google234 5y ago
1, you are now really exaggerating. 2, this analogy is really straying far from software engineering. 3, what is your point here?
oriolid 5y ago
IIRC the work with Demon Core was described as "tickling the dragon's tail", not "following the checklist". Wikipedia also mentions "Slotin's own unapproved protocol".
- Google234 5y ago
  Also how could there be a checklist? They were literally pioneers
  - oriolid 5y ago
    An easy way to create one would be to ask "what could go wrong" and "how bad would it be", then develop procedures to minimize the risk.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  You are right, it's a different point - just trying to illustrate that being some of the smartest people on earth doesnt mean you wont make a terrible mistake or will have good judgement. Like they knew it was super dangerous, there wasn't new science discovered since then about this particular setup. Today rank and file engineers know not to do that
RichardCA 5y ago
Not calling you out, but where did you get the number deaths > 100 from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_accident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_accident
chha 5y ago
Problem was, there was no real checklist. They were part of a huge number of people who have created the checklists, partly as a result of lessons learned after making mistakes resulting in death and destruction.

exdsq 5y ago

Out of interest with your name Google234, are you a student or early employee? You seem to be very certain about things in your comments here but I'm unsure if they come from experience or speculation.