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It is omnipotent turtles all the way down, though. "Matter and the laws of physics" is "turtles" just as much as "God" is "turtles." Choosing to believe the tu
by smeej 5y ago
It is omnipotent turtles all the way down, though. "Matter and the laws of physics" is "turtles" just as much as "God" is "turtles."
Choosing to believe the turtles are impersonal doesn't alleviate the problem of the turtles.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoExcept the turtle of matter and physics aren't creators and don't need themselves to be created if they always existed. Mass and physics aren't sentient or acting with purpose.
- smeej 5y agoEverything that exists comes [X]. [X] causes all that happens. Nothing happens apart from [X]. It doesn't matter whether [X] stands for "matter and the laws of physics" or "God." All you've done is make the turtles impersonal. The stack is still there, and it's every bit as inexplicable as it was before.