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Most of us in our mid 30's have mild cases. Until I see evidence of it, I'm going to treat it as media driven hysteria. Like masks on 4 year olds. From the fi

Most of us in our mid 30's have mild cases. Until I see evidence of it, I'm going to treat it as media driven hysteria. Like masks on 4 year olds. From the first link above: "loss of taste and/or smell (28%, 17/61), fatigue (21%, 13/61), dyspnea (13%, 8/61), impaired concentration (13%, 8/61) and memory problems (11%, 7/61)." Does anyone really consider these to be a serious syndrome caused by covid infection? I'm pretty sure I experienced most of these from the lockdowns alone. Lots of folks also think they have fibromyalgia and that it's not just in their head (it is). From the second link: “It remains to be established if these immune alterations are unique to COVID-19, or whether they are also observed following other severe respiratory infections." Uh, ok...

scotty79 5y ago
Lucky for you that you haven't personally seen any case of long covid, I personally know two people suffering from it and third one bit more distant. Two of those are in people 30-40 years old. Third one is over 60. One had some unusual brain fog and memory issues, second one is unable to work and still treated for various symptoms. The older one became housebound while before that she was self sufficient and even taking care for young girl from extended family. To think of it I also know of one very young person in family of my friends that had to be hospitalized multiple times for post covid stuff. He's not even 20. You may of course discount all of this that it couldn't happen spontaneously or after a bad flu. That's why I believe long covid is a thing mostly because of reports comming from all over the globe and associated research not because of those personal stories. If you need evidence of your own eyes to believe something I don't envy you or anyone that relies on your decisions.
NicoJuicy 5y ago
> I haven't seen anything remotely convincing. But I am open to changing my mind. It was so obvious that you're statement was just a fluff. Long covid isn't easy to measure. Eg. Not everyone was admitted to the hospital, what are the symptoms related, are those symptoms unique to long covid, ... But by now, it should be clear that long covid exists and covid deaths aren't the only problem related to this disease. Being in a denial state is your problem, not mine. I think it's currently a specific US political motivated issue, as I haven't encountered anyone in Belgium that claimed it's irrelevant/not existing.
- chitowneats 5y ago
  Americans are generally more suspicious of state propaganda and mass psychosis, yes.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    It's not real propaganda is it. The state wants people to be vaccinated as quick as possible and a political party + Anon is dismissing it as "just a cold/5G/nanobots" and some people believe it. It's more like propaganda against the state and a lot of Americans believe that misinformation. At least other countries / citizens seem to have more common sense.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      Ps. Thread about people asking for covid support groups today should make it obvious that long covid can be really bad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27824447 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27824447
    - chitowneats 5y ago
      No one here is talking about 5G. That is always the go to "gotcha" for anyone pushing covid hysteria. The reason I post here anonymously is because tying my identity to this can lead to consequences elsewhere. Everyone knows there is unprecedented censorship around this issue. Which is part of why we have failed so utterly to comprehend and contextualize this virus.
      - NicoJuicy 5y ago
        Yeah well. I'm pretty easy to retrace, I think and nothing happened... Some guy even put my governments politicians through AI and nothing happened to him either. https://mashable.com/article/flemish-politicians-ai-phone-use https://mashable.com/article/flemish-politicians-ai-phone-us...

scotty79 5y ago

Lucky for you that you haven't personally seen any case of long covid, I personally know two people suffering from it and third one bit more distant. Two of those are in people 30-40 years old. Third one is over 60. One had some unusual brain fog and memory issues, second one is unable to work and still treated for various symptoms. The older one became housebound while before that she was self sufficient and even taking care for young girl from extended family. To think of it I also know of one very young person in family of my friends that had to be hospitalized multiple times for post covid stuff. He's not even 20. You may of course discount all of this that it couldn't happen spontaneously or after a bad flu. That's why I believe long covid is a thing mostly because of reports comming from all over the globe and associated research not because of those personal stories. If you need evidence of your own eyes to believe something I don't envy you or anyone that relies on your decisions.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

> I haven't seen anything remotely convincing. But I am open to changing my mind. It was so obvious that you're statement was just a fluff. Long covid isn't easy to measure. Eg. Not everyone was admitted to the hospital, what are the symptoms related, are those symptoms unique to long covid, ... But by now, it should be clear that long covid exists and covid deaths aren't the only problem related to this disease. Being in a denial state is your problem, not mine. I think it's currently a specific US political motivated issue, as I haven't encountered anyone in Belgium that claimed it's irrelevant/not existing.

chitowneats 5y ago
Americans are generally more suspicious of state propaganda and mass psychosis, yes.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  It's not real propaganda is it. The state wants people to be vaccinated as quick as possible and a political party + Anon is dismissing it as "just a cold/5G/nanobots" and some people believe it. It's more like propaganda against the state and a lot of Americans believe that misinformation. At least other countries / citizens seem to have more common sense.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    Ps. Thread about people asking for covid support groups today should make it obvious that long covid can be really bad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27824447 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27824447
  - chitowneats 5y ago
    No one here is talking about 5G. That is always the go to "gotcha" for anyone pushing covid hysteria. The reason I post here anonymously is because tying my identity to this can lead to consequences elsewhere. Everyone knows there is unprecedented censorship around this issue. Which is part of why we have failed so utterly to comprehend and contextualize this virus.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      Yeah well. I'm pretty easy to retrace, I think and nothing happened... Some guy even put my governments politicians through AI and nothing happened to him either. https://mashable.com/article/flemish-politicians-ai-phone-use https://mashable.com/article/flemish-politicians-ai-phone-us...