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> If today's flight reaches space successfully it will set a record: there will be 16 humans in space simultaneously for the first time ever. I hope Moore's la
by cj 5y ago
> If today's flight reaches space successfully it will set a record: there will be 16 humans in space simultaneously for the first time ever.
I hope Moore's law applies to this!
- Darmody 5y agoIn a couple years we all should be in Space then.
- baggy_trough 5y agoOr at least 32 of us.
- Darmody 5y agoWe're going to have more and more launches like this. Virgin did it today, Blue Origin will do it in a few days and others will come later.
- trothamel 5y agoSpaceX will be launching the Inspiration4 flight sometime this year. I believe that will be the first private orbital flight. (Without at least one government astronaut or cosmonaut on board.)
- nabla9 5y agoGoodbuy to CO2 limits then.
- cjbenedikt 5y agoI surely get down voted for this as well. Good thing we can openly debate things on HN. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The lowest-hanging fruit for solving global warming+air pollution is REDUCING energy use<br><br>Instead, these bozos are wasting energy+polluting the troposphere+stratosphere.<a href="https://twitter.com/richardbranson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@richardbranson</a> https://twitter.com/richardbranson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ric... launch to space looks to beat <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBezos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JeffBezos</a> https://twitter.com/JeffBezos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JeffBezo.... But all of humanity loses.<a href="https://t.co/nwREJ2muSU">https://t.co/nwREJ2muSU</a></p>— https://t.co/nwREJ2muSU">https://t.co/nwREJ2muSU</a></p>&mda... Mark Z. Jacobson (@mzjacobson) <a href="https://twitter.com/mzjacobson/status/1414246454227456005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July https://twitter.com/mzjacobson/status/1414246454227456005?re... 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
- throwaway803453 5y agoMoore's law happens when the output of the system can be used to improve the system that produced the original output. In other words some recursion is required. It also requires that there is an economic need for more output. So yes if somehow putting engineers and labs in space allows us to iterate faster or spaceship designs then the first requirement is achieved. Then there's the question if the masses want to travel to space. Unlikely unless it just so happens to speed travel and reduce cost for getting from Earth point A to Earth point B. We'll see.
- phreeza 5y ago> Moore's law happens when the output of the system can be used to improve the system that produced the original output. This is a thing that possibly facilitates exponential progress, but it is by no means a prerequisite. I have a hard time believing that compute power has been the bottleneck in chip design for many years now. Other current counterexamples include solar cells and batteries. They have been improving exponentially, but no recursion to speak of comes to mind.
- throwaway803453 5y agoMy understanding was Moore's law implied a form of doubling at at least every 24 months. Otherwise why not just say {qualifier} exponential growth.
- atq2119 5y ago> I have a hard time believing that compute power has been the bottleneck in chip design for many years now. Considering that many of the bread and butter NP-hard problems are actually inspired by chip design, this is blatantly untrue. Though I do believe progress is currently held back more by the closed software ecosystems and secrecy around design rules.
- phreeza 5y agoMy completely amateur understanding of chip manufacturing progress is that it is not bound by routing problems or similar (which I am guessing you are referring to), but by lithography physics, chemistry, etc. I might be wrong though, are you saying that faster chips are actually becoming possible because more compute power has become available through the previous generation of chips, at this point?
- ijidak 5y agoGreat point! It's not a far-fetched thought. I would love to see someone track this at 18 month intervals starting today. Although, depressingly, growing at the rate of Moore's law, it would still take 24 years to get 1 million people in space.
- simonjgreen 5y agoIs that depressing? That would be a phenomenal achievement
- dmd 5y agoBut, at that same rate, all of humanity would be in space by the 2060s.
- RIMR 5y agoIt's a little hard to care when there's such a vast difference between being "in space" vs being in orbit. I hope we accomplish more of the latter.
- agumonkey 5y agoHey, aren't we all into space already ?
- warent 5y agospace is short for outer space, as opposed to the inner space between earth and it's atmosphere. Nice try! EDIT folks this is just a benign and playful post, the downvotes and flagging is completely unnecessary
- agumonkey 5y agoApologies for the undesired outcome. Have a good day
- FlyingSnake 5y agoThanks for helping me realize that I've fulfilled my childhood dream of being an Astronaut.
- agumonkey 5y agoWe just happen to share a very dense and very spherical ship. Take that Elon