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You can't be both a craft and engineering. I think the issue is misunderstanding what it means for something to be engineered. There is a correct answer. (Espe
by deregulateMed 5y ago
You can't be both a craft and engineering.
I think the issue is misunderstanding what it means for something to be engineered. There is a correct answer. (Especially because you can always optimize for cost or a different quality metric)
- ChrisMarshallNY 5y agoI see things differently. I believe that they can both coexist. I think that the prior art is centuries old.
- jbluepolarbear 5y agoYou are so wrong. Software is both a craft and engineering. All software fits your definition of cost and quality optimization. It is a craft in that a software engineer isn’t taught how to write the software you want, they’ve built a toolbox from crafting different types of solutions because their existing tools didn’t fit.
- deregulateMed 5y agoThe optimization is complete in engineering. In programming optimization is optional and unless you are doing safety critical C or assembly, it's not truly optimized.
- jbluepolarbear 5y agoWat?
- hwayne 5y agoMany mechanical and electrical engineers see their work as craft.
- deregulateMed 5y agoLots of engineers suck, and they often don't actually do engineering.
- ChrisMarshallNY 5y agoI started as an EE (actually, as an electronic technician). I never came up through the "traditional" CS tree. As a result, I regularly see the insides of many snotty noses. It was the main reason that I stopped looking for work in the field; but I was shipping stuff from my very first project[0]. My entire career has consisted of architecting and implementing shipping solutions. Meh. Whatever creams your Twinkie. I'm not losing much sleep over it, but it is annoying. [0] https://littlegreenviper.com/TF30194/TF30194-Manual-1987.pdf https://littlegreenviper.com/TF30194/TF30194-Manual-1987.pdf (Downloads a PDF)