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I wonder if the hyper taxonomization of genres is something specific to our era. When I was a kid we barely distinguished between horror and thriller but nowad

I wonder if the hyper taxonomization of genres is something specific to our era. When I was a kid we barely distinguished between horror and thriller but nowadays books are written on the subtle differences between slipstream and new weird, and the subgenres of fantasy and sci-fi are legions. Maybe it's Wikipedia's fault.

the_rectifier 5y ago
More nuance is the opposite of a problem.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  Hyper-specialised labelling is the opposite of nuance.
JimiofEden 5y ago
It might also just be a matter of growing up and suddenly realizing that everything seems so much more defined than previously thought. Anecdotally, but I also noticed that from around 2000 to 2010, suddenly everything needed to be categorized very specifically. But what stood out is that people would get very weirdly upset if you put something in the wrong box, and all but start a fight about it (over forums, of course.) This was especially prevalent in the electronic music scene, but happens to this day during video game genre discussions.
- Kye 5y ago
  The "Is Zelda an RPG?" hell threads come to mind.
agarsev 5y ago
I think it is fine to pursue this ever increasingly detailed classification of things (not only in art or pop culture, this applies to other knowledge too, including science). The problem might come if one takes one of these descriptive, post-hoc classifications, ignores the fact that they are often diffuse and imperfect, and then tries to use it as a predictive model to explain and deal with everything, and discard any data that doesn't fit. But people like meta, so it might not even be a problem :)
tomjen3 5y ago
My school library had maybe 3 foot shelves dedicated to scifi/fantasy. Today I can buy the most obscure books I want on Amazon. Maybe that is why we have more taxonomies now.
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tedunangst 5y ago
The anti romantic movement consisting of Hawthorne and Melville comes to mind.

the_rectifier 5y ago

More nuance is the opposite of a problem.

user-the-name 5y ago
Hyper-specialised labelling is the opposite of nuance.

JimiofEden 5y ago

It might also just be a matter of growing up and suddenly realizing that everything seems so much more defined than previously thought. Anecdotally, but I also noticed that from around 2000 to 2010, suddenly everything needed to be categorized very specifically. But what stood out is that people would get very weirdly upset if you put something in the wrong box, and all but start a fight about it (over forums, of course.) This was especially prevalent in the electronic music scene, but happens to this day during video game genre discussions.

Kye 5y ago
The "Is Zelda an RPG?" hell threads come to mind.

agarsev 5y ago

I think it is fine to pursue this ever increasingly detailed classification of things (not only in art or pop culture, this applies to other knowledge too, including science). The problem might come if one takes one of these descriptive, post-hoc classifications, ignores the fact that they are often diffuse and imperfect, and then tries to use it as a predictive model to explain and deal with everything, and discard any data that doesn't fit. But people like meta, so it might not even be a problem :)

tomjen3 5y ago

My school library had maybe 3 foot shelves dedicated to scifi/fantasy. Today I can buy the most obscure books I want on Amazon. Maybe that is why we have more taxonomies now.

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tedunangst 5y ago

The anti romantic movement consisting of Hawthorne and Melville comes to mind.