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So many of these genres are applied to works long after they have been completed. For example, The Flintstones are labeled as stonepunk, even though it origina

by Nbox9 5y ago

So many of these genres are applied to works long after they have been completed. For example, The Flintstones are labeled as stonepunk, even though it originally aired in the early 60s.

kijin 5y ago
That happens with every genre. Genres are labels. You can attach them to works long after the fact, whether the original creator(s) intended or not. Jules Verne wrote steampunk a century before the term was even coined. Cervantes wrote a novel before novels were a thing (at least in the West), and thereby defined what a novel should look like. The Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Greek tradition of epic poetry by at least a millennium, but nobody denies that it's an epic poem.
- danidiaz 5y ago
  Don Quixote is windmillpunk! Less facetiously, it's a work informed by the technological developments of its time. http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/cervantes-bulletin-of-the-cervantes-society-of-america--8/html/0278c536-82b2-11df-acc7-002185ce6064_18.html http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/cervantes-bulleti... According to this article https://www.depauw.edu/sfs/backissues/2/plank2art.htm https://www.depauw.edu/sfs/backissues/2/plank2art.htm "windmills were first erected in La Mancha thirty years or less before Don Quixote was written" and this gives new nuances to Quixote's delusion. That's not the only encounter with "advanced" technology; there's also the episode with the water-powered "fulling-hammers" https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/d/don-quixote/summary-and-analysis/part-1-chapter-xx https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/d/don-quixote/summary... Don Quixote also rails against modern military technology like firearms.
platz 5y ago
There are probably only a handful of people in the world using the term stonepunk, while steampunk is quite popular. Most of the obscure references here do not have broad adoption. In order for a genre to have influence it has to have cultural resonance
teddyh 5y ago
The Flintstones was in effect an animated remake of popular live-action TV series The Honeymooners, with the stone-age setting as just an added quirky facade to get easy jokes out of. It was, needless to say, never meant as an actual reference to any actual stone-age. Compare this to, say, Dinosaurs, which (while in many ways similar to The Flintstones) had actual references to contemporary events and phenomena.
lloydatkinson 5y ago
I've honestly not seen anything as uniquely cringe as putting the word "punk" on the end of words. I think the dumbest one is the steam one. Yes ok, making hats with gears and pipes on or making radios or computers into some ugly monstrosity with rust coloured paint and extra pipes. Truly a waste.
- bart_spoon 5y ago
  It’s one upped by the trend of putting “porn” at the end of words, such as FoodPorn, EarthPorn, etc. There’s a whole laundry list of subreddits with potentially interesting content that I won’t bother visiting just because of the terrible naming convention.

by Nbox9 5y ago

So many of these genres are applied to works long after they have been completed. For example, The Flintstones are labeled as stonepunk, even though it originally aired in the early 60s.

kijin 5y ago

That happens with every genre. Genres are labels. You can attach them to works long after the fact, whether the original creator(s) intended or not. Jules Verne wrote steampunk a century before the term was even coined. Cervantes wrote a novel before novels were a thing (at least in the West), and thereby defined what a novel should look like. The Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Greek tradition of epic poetry by at least a millennium, but nobody denies that it's an epic poem.

danidiaz 5y ago
Don Quixote is windmillpunk! Less facetiously, it's a work informed by the technological developments of its time. http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/cervantes-bulletin-of-the-cervantes-society-of-america--8/html/0278c536-82b2-11df-acc7-002185ce6064_18.html http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/cervantes-bulleti... According to this article https://www.depauw.edu/sfs/backissues/2/plank2art.htm https://www.depauw.edu/sfs/backissues/2/plank2art.htm "windmills were first erected in La Mancha thirty years or less before Don Quixote was written" and this gives new nuances to Quixote's delusion. That's not the only encounter with "advanced" technology; there's also the episode with the water-powered "fulling-hammers" https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/d/don-quixote/summary-and-analysis/part-1-chapter-xx https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/d/don-quixote/summary... Don Quixote also rails against modern military technology like firearms.

platz 5y ago

There are probably only a handful of people in the world using the term stonepunk, while steampunk is quite popular. Most of the obscure references here do not have broad adoption. In order for a genre to have influence it has to have cultural resonance

teddyh 5y ago

The Flintstones was in effect an animated remake of popular live-action TV series The Honeymooners, with the stone-age setting as just an added quirky facade to get easy jokes out of. It was, needless to say, never meant as an actual reference to any actual stone-age. Compare this to, say, Dinosaurs, which (while in many ways similar to The Flintstones) had actual references to contemporary events and phenomena.

lloydatkinson 5y ago

I've honestly not seen anything as uniquely cringe as putting the word "punk" on the end of words. I think the dumbest one is the steam one. Yes ok, making hats with gears and pipes on or making radios or computers into some ugly monstrosity with rust coloured paint and extra pipes. Truly a waste.

bart_spoon 5y ago
It’s one upped by the trend of putting “porn” at the end of words, such as FoodPorn, EarthPorn, etc. There’s a whole laundry list of subreddits with potentially interesting content that I won’t bother visiting just because of the terrible naming convention.