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Still there are hundreds of corpses buried in unknown places all over Spain and right wing parties don't want them unearthed, identified and given to the famili

Still there are hundreds of corpses buried in unknown places all over Spain and right wing parties don't want them unearthed, identified and given to the families, also continuous homages to the dictator from the right wing parties claiming that dictatorship was a time of order and peace.

Ikatza 5y ago
> right wing parties don't want them unearthed, identified and given to the families Source for this?
- pvaldes 5y ago
  Voting against it repeatedly in congress and senate counts as a source?
elnatro 5y ago
Well, I’m focusing in actual important things, like the continuous decrease of purchasing power of Spaniards. The war was more than 80 years ago, the Franco regime ended 46 years ago, and there was an amnesty/treaty with all political parties to work for the country forward. Now, about the monuments/homages: There are also monuments for the Che Guevara, La pasionaria, Carrillo (remember Paracuellos war crimes), etc. would these monuments be banned also? Largo Caballero made some controversial statements another opting for Revolution instead of democracy: > “La clase obrera debe adueñarse del poder político, convencida de que la democracia es incompatible con el socialismo, y como el que tiene el poder no ha de entregarlo voluntariamente, por eso hay que ir a la Revolución“ Should we ban all parties that have him as an important figure? No, Franco regime symbols have already been removed, his tomb removed, and the democracy has rooted in Spain for almost half a century, why don’t left-leaning parties solve actual people problems?
- ghostDancer 5y ago
  There are statues, monuments and streets with the names of falangists and fascists all around the country and the right wing parties are against removing their names, in fact recently the president of the PP , a supposedly right wing democratic party, defended in the parliament the dictatorship as a good time with law and order. Also the people that forget their past is condemned to repeat it and right now in Spain the PP is governing in part of Spain with a extreme right wing party and I'm thinking too in important things like Spain not converting in a neo nazi state like Hungary , whih the Spanish right wing parties have just given support in front of the European union voting next to to the extreme right wing parties.
elnatro 5y ago
What’s stopped the Zapatero administration (2004-2011) or current prime minister Sánchez (since 2018) to make excavations and recover the remains? Nothing. They keep alive this topic because it’s convenient to get some more votes and polarize the society. No government (not even Franco regime) has excavated, looking for corpses. In fact, while looking for “Republican” bodies, some times even have found “Nationalist” corpses [1] I refuse to be in one faction of a war that occurred 80 years ago because some old-fashioned politician says so. [1] https://elpais.com/ccaa/2014/07/18/valencia/1405708991_424402.html https://elpais.com/ccaa/2014/07/18/valencia/1405708991_42440...

Ikatza 5y ago

> right wing parties don't want them unearthed, identified and given to the families Source for this?

pvaldes 5y ago
Voting against it repeatedly in congress and senate counts as a source?

elnatro 5y ago

Well, I’m focusing in actual important things, like the continuous decrease of purchasing power of Spaniards. The war was more than 80 years ago, the Franco regime ended 46 years ago, and there was an amnesty/treaty with all political parties to work for the country forward. Now, about the monuments/homages: There are also monuments for the Che Guevara, La pasionaria, Carrillo (remember Paracuellos war crimes), etc. would these monuments be banned also? Largo Caballero made some controversial statements another opting for Revolution instead of democracy: > “La clase obrera debe adueñarse del poder político, convencida de que la democracia es incompatible con el socialismo, y como el que tiene el poder no ha de entregarlo voluntariamente, por eso hay que ir a la Revolución“ Should we ban all parties that have him as an important figure? No, Franco regime symbols have already been removed, his tomb removed, and the democracy has rooted in Spain for almost half a century, why don’t left-leaning parties solve actual people problems?

ghostDancer 5y ago
There are statues, monuments and streets with the names of falangists and fascists all around the country and the right wing parties are against removing their names, in fact recently the president of the PP , a supposedly right wing democratic party, defended in the parliament the dictatorship as a good time with law and order. Also the people that forget their past is condemned to repeat it and right now in Spain the PP is governing in part of Spain with a extreme right wing party and I'm thinking too in important things like Spain not converting in a neo nazi state like Hungary , whih the Spanish right wing parties have just given support in front of the European union voting next to to the extreme right wing parties.

elnatro 5y ago

What’s stopped the Zapatero administration (2004-2011) or current prime minister Sánchez (since 2018) to make excavations and recover the remains? Nothing. They keep alive this topic because it’s convenient to get some more votes and polarize the society. No government (not even Franco regime) has excavated, looking for corpses. In fact, while looking for “Republican” bodies, some times even have found “Nationalist” corpses [1] I refuse to be in one faction of a war that occurred 80 years ago because some old-fashioned politician says so. [1] https://elpais.com/ccaa/2014/07/18/valencia/1405708991_424402.html https://elpais.com/ccaa/2014/07/18/valencia/1405708991_42440...