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I think the US should subsidize NASA instead of Musk and Bezos. I think the privatization of space and the fanfare related to it is a huge problem. I don't even

I think the US should subsidize NASA instead of Musk and Bezos. I think the privatization of space and the fanfare related to it is a huge problem. I don't even know what to say about Branson other than I just wish he'd chill out and go kite boarding with young models strapped to his back or whatever.

NavinF 5y ago
Dude the article is about Virgin Galactic, not Musk/Bezos. There are no subsidies involved. Btw do you think the US should pay $400 million/launch for Crew Dragon or $1.5 billion/launch for the Space Shuttle? I know which one I'd pay :) How about SLS's $2 billion/launch + fixed costs vs Starship?
- stuntkite 5y ago
  We fund Vigrin as well. I just dislike Musk and Bezos more. In general I think private space exploration is dangerous and stupid. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/5/21248289/virgin-galactic-q1-earnings-supersonic-travel-space-tourism-60-million-loss https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/5/21248289/virgin-galactic-q... https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/01/nasa-taps-virgin-galactic-and-a-peer-for-45-millio/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/01/nasa-taps-virgin-g...
Tenoke 5y ago
Hasn't the US been subsidizing NASA and at this point hasn't it become clear that the Musk route is delivering a lot more?
- stuntkite 5y ago
  NASA is pretty hamstrung in favor of subsidizing private space exploration built off of NASA and others research and continuing to develop through in large part US government contracts. Musk is a huckster. His engineers have done a great job figuring out reverse rocketry and a bunch of other stuff. He launched "his" (stolen) car into space to punk someone. Sure. Seeing those rockets land is amazing. I don't think we need to follow the bro smoking blunts on Joe Rogan into our future. I think he's a dangerous person and it shouldn't be left up to him how we move into space flight. Also he shouldn't be able to own the IP. Starlink is a short sighted endeavor that is going to really fuck up a lot of stuff. Musk is the worst offender really. His blatant lies about what the Starship can do and what he can accomplish are constant. You only need to look at what his hustle was with the solar roofs and solar city to see what his values are. Common Sense Skeptic on Youtube has done a pretty good job cataloging the problems with what Musk is trying to do. I guess I'd recommend that if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKWj1pn3_7hRSFIypunYog/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKWj1pn3_7hRSFIypunYog/vid...
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    I disagree. I think we should fund private industry and increase the current expenditures by 10x. I love Bezos and Musk. They’re visionaries and have changed the world. Anti-billionairism is rage induced by excessive consumption of social media.

NavinF 5y ago

Dude the article is about Virgin Galactic, not Musk/Bezos. There are no subsidies involved. Btw do you think the US should pay $400 million/launch for Crew Dragon or $1.5 billion/launch for the Space Shuttle? I know which one I'd pay :) How about SLS's $2 billion/launch + fixed costs vs Starship?

stuntkite 5y ago
We fund Vigrin as well. I just dislike Musk and Bezos more. In general I think private space exploration is dangerous and stupid. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/5/21248289/virgin-galactic-q1-earnings-supersonic-travel-space-tourism-60-million-loss https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/5/21248289/virgin-galactic-q... https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/01/nasa-taps-virgin-galactic-and-a-peer-for-45-millio/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/01/nasa-taps-virgin-g...

Tenoke 5y ago

Hasn't the US been subsidizing NASA and at this point hasn't it become clear that the Musk route is delivering a lot more?

stuntkite 5y ago
NASA is pretty hamstrung in favor of subsidizing private space exploration built off of NASA and others research and continuing to develop through in large part US government contracts. Musk is a huckster. His engineers have done a great job figuring out reverse rocketry and a bunch of other stuff. He launched "his" (stolen) car into space to punk someone. Sure. Seeing those rockets land is amazing. I don't think we need to follow the bro smoking blunts on Joe Rogan into our future. I think he's a dangerous person and it shouldn't be left up to him how we move into space flight. Also he shouldn't be able to own the IP. Starlink is a short sighted endeavor that is going to really fuck up a lot of stuff. Musk is the worst offender really. His blatant lies about what the Starship can do and what he can accomplish are constant. You only need to look at what his hustle was with the solar roofs and solar city to see what his values are. Common Sense Skeptic on Youtube has done a pretty good job cataloging the problems with what Musk is trying to do. I guess I'd recommend that if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKWj1pn3_7hRSFIypunYog/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKWj1pn3_7hRSFIypunYog/vid...
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  I disagree. I think we should fund private industry and increase the current expenditures by 10x. I love Bezos and Musk. They’re visionaries and have changed the world. Anti-billionairism is rage induced by excessive consumption of social media.