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Google business is built on using your data, it is truly an Ad company, while Apple is not. And common perception of Android as open source, it is not. Google P

by nuker 5y ago

Google business is built on using your data, it is truly an Ad company, while Apple is not. And common perception of Android as open source, it is not. Google Play Services runs all the time and is closed source.

forgotmypw17 5y ago
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but it doesn't change how useless Apple devices are to me.
- nuker 5y ago
  I meant Privacy, it is important to me.
  - forgotmypw17 5y ago
    If I only use a non-Google web browser and don't sign into Google's services, where are the privacy leaks? Are you aware that Apple is capable of browsing the entirety of your iCloud backup data?
    - nuker 5y ago
      > Apple is capable See my previous reply, they are not in Ad business, they make money on devices.
      - salamandersauce 5y ago
        They are in the ad business. They're just not as successful as Google. For example they sell ads for App Store searches. They used to run an ad network called iAd for use in iOS apps but it just wasn't successful so it was discontinued. Apple makes money on devices, but they also make boatloads on selling apps, subs and micro transactions in the App Store such that they have incentives to keep that as closed as possible to keep consumers going through them and only them for mobile software needs.
        nuker 5y ago
        All that you said just confirms they don’t need or use users data. Closed, yes, but I feel safer this way, I’m a consumer, not developer.
        forgotmypw17 5y ago
        Someone else locking up and managing your data for you is great until you want something not in the playbook. I'm sticking with text files and such, which I can manage myself.
Anunayj 5y ago
Yeah Stock Android might not be that privacy friendly, but it being opensourced means I can use something like AOSP if I so may desire and sideload all apps I need. For me, control over my devices is more important. I do not want to trust the words of a random company. Ofcourse there are a few issues with this approach, it reduces the security of the device (Unlocked firmware), Some apps depend on Google Play services and will refuse to run, (usually it's the games depending on Google Play Games). And using any Google Service (gmail, youtube) requires me to install google play services. (Which honestly defeats the whole prupose). Apple's ecosystem is quite "nice" and just works out of the box and they have shown themselves to be trustworthy in the past. I just don't want to be locked to their ecosystem.

by nuker 5y ago

forgotmypw17 5y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but it doesn't change how useless Apple devices are to me.

nuker 5y ago
I meant Privacy, it is important to me.
- forgotmypw17 5y ago
  If I only use a non-Google web browser and don't sign into Google's services, where are the privacy leaks? Are you aware that Apple is capable of browsing the entirety of your iCloud backup data?
  - nuker 5y ago
    > Apple is capable See my previous reply, they are not in Ad business, they make money on devices.
    - salamandersauce 5y ago
      They are in the ad business. They're just not as successful as Google. For example they sell ads for App Store searches. They used to run an ad network called iAd for use in iOS apps but it just wasn't successful so it was discontinued. Apple makes money on devices, but they also make boatloads on selling apps, subs and micro transactions in the App Store such that they have incentives to keep that as closed as possible to keep consumers going through them and only them for mobile software needs.
      - nuker 5y ago
        All that you said just confirms they don’t need or use users data. Closed, yes, but I feel safer this way, I’m a consumer, not developer.
        forgotmypw17 5y ago
        Someone else locking up and managing your data for you is great until you want something not in the playbook. I'm sticking with text files and such, which I can manage myself.

Anunayj 5y ago

Yeah Stock Android might not be that privacy friendly, but it being opensourced means I can use something like AOSP if I so may desire and sideload all apps I need. For me, control over my devices is more important. I do not want to trust the words of a random company. Ofcourse there are a few issues with this approach, it reduces the security of the device (Unlocked firmware), Some apps depend on Google Play services and will refuse to run, (usually it's the games depending on Google Play Games). And using any Google Service (gmail, youtube) requires me to install google play services. (Which honestly defeats the whole prupose). Apple's ecosystem is quite "nice" and just works out of the box and they have shown themselves to be trustworthy in the past. I just don't want to be locked to their ecosystem.