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What's wrong with the USDA nutritional guidelines?

by tpush 5y ago

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BrianOnHN 5y ago
> What's wrong Diabetes and obesity are still rampant, so I'd say something is certainly wrong.
- sjfidsfkds 5y ago
  I’m not a fan of the guidelines myself (too carb-heavy, IMO). However I don’t think obesity and diabetes are rampant among people who eat 2000 calories and exercise 30 minutes per day.
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  - anonuser123456 5y ago
    >However I don’t think obesity and diabetes are rampant among people who eat 2000 calories and exercise 30 minutes per day And this is where the issue gets complicated. Why do people eat more than 2000 calories / day and exercise less. Are they lazy and stupid, or is there something deeper. Personally, I think the most compelling argument appears to be that high insulin levels hijack the hypothalamus through hormonal disregulation. The hypothalamus of these insulin resistant people drives them to over eat and expend less energy because it thinks they are underfed. This model suggests severely restricting carbohydrate in order to drive down insulin levels.
    - WA 5y ago
      You make it more complicated than it is: we have easy access to tons of calories, our lives don’t require us to move a lot and we are hardwired to find/eat calories and store them in the body for worse times. Low-carb certainly isn’t the solution. For some it is, but not for most.
- tpush 5y ago
  I don't think the people having diabetes and obesity are sticking to the guidelines.
Sebguer 5y ago
I think the OP might be conflating the USDA nutritional guidelines with the food pyramid, which was rather blatantly bullshit and influenced by the agricultural industry.
- hanniabu 5y ago
  Where can I find a science-based food pyramid chart?
  - anonuser123456 5y ago
    It is beyond the limits of science. The experiment to determine an optimal food pyramid has too many confounding variables and the experiements necessary to validate them would probably not pass an IRB and cost hundreds of billions of dollars.
ClearlyDearly 5y ago
How is dairy, a food that was almost unobtainable before agriculture (that 60% of the world is intolerant to) a part of the food pyramid most people NEED two-three servings a day of?

What's wrong with the USDA nutritional guidelines?

by tpush 5y ago

What's wrong with the USDA nutritional guidelines?

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BrianOnHN 5y ago

> What's wrong Diabetes and obesity are still rampant, so I'd say something is certainly wrong.

sjfidsfkds 5y ago
I’m not a fan of the guidelines myself (too carb-heavy, IMO). However I don’t think obesity and diabetes are rampant among people who eat 2000 calories and exercise 30 minutes per day.
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- anonuser123456 5y ago
  >However I don’t think obesity and diabetes are rampant among people who eat 2000 calories and exercise 30 minutes per day And this is where the issue gets complicated. Why do people eat more than 2000 calories / day and exercise less. Are they lazy and stupid, or is there something deeper. Personally, I think the most compelling argument appears to be that high insulin levels hijack the hypothalamus through hormonal disregulation. The hypothalamus of these insulin resistant people drives them to over eat and expend less energy because it thinks they are underfed. This model suggests severely restricting carbohydrate in order to drive down insulin levels.
  - WA 5y ago
    You make it more complicated than it is: we have easy access to tons of calories, our lives don’t require us to move a lot and we are hardwired to find/eat calories and store them in the body for worse times. Low-carb certainly isn’t the solution. For some it is, but not for most.
tpush 5y ago
I don't think the people having diabetes and obesity are sticking to the guidelines.

Sebguer 5y ago

I think the OP might be conflating the USDA nutritional guidelines with the food pyramid, which was rather blatantly bullshit and influenced by the agricultural industry.

hanniabu 5y ago
Where can I find a science-based food pyramid chart?
- anonuser123456 5y ago
  It is beyond the limits of science. The experiment to determine an optimal food pyramid has too many confounding variables and the experiements necessary to validate them would probably not pass an IRB and cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

ClearlyDearly 5y ago

How is dairy, a food that was almost unobtainable before agriculture (that 60% of the world is intolerant to) a part of the food pyramid most people NEED two-three servings a day of?