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Are we saying vaccines are not the solution?

by dQw4w9WgXcQ 5y ago

Ensorceled 5y ago
The majority of the world is not vaccinated. Hell, in some US states the majority is not vaccinated.
- wussboy 5y ago
  I think you’re talking past each other. Is the virus still with us (your point)? Yes. Do we have a potent and effective vaccine which, for vaccinated persons means the virus is no longer a threat (the other person’s point)? Yes.
  - hanniabu 5y ago
    Still not enough vaccinated for herd immunity. And considering the effectiveness of the vaccine drops from ~95% to ~65% 6 months after (around more for a majority of people) then it's looking further from all clear.
    - rhino369 5y ago
      We were vaccinated enough for heard immunity from the original variants. That’s why infections were cratering even in places with no social distancing rules. Delta variant is probably going to change that. Some parts of the country will have a delta wave. But it’s going to be mostly in vaccinated people with serious infections.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    Do we have enough supplies of those vaccines yet, worldwide? Have we vaccinated sufficient people yet, worldwide? Sadly, no and no. Even in many US states it's also not enough yet. And many countries must be looking at their situation regarding vaccine production in general, particularly dependency on other countries, and finding that to be something that they want to secure for themselves. > for vaccinated persons means the virus is no longer a threat I would call it a much diminished threat, which would be further diminished by vaccinating more other people, rather than "no threat".
- maxerickson 5y ago
  Outside the northeast, US states are barely above 50%. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-r... (link says march-15, page is updated through July 8)
  - rhino369 5y ago
    You can probably add another 15%-20% from recovered immunity.

Are we saying vaccines are not the solution?

Ensorceled 5y ago

The majority of the world is not vaccinated. Hell, in some US states the majority is not vaccinated.

wussboy 5y ago
I think you’re talking past each other. Is the virus still with us (your point)? Yes. Do we have a potent and effective vaccine which, for vaccinated persons means the virus is no longer a threat (the other person’s point)? Yes.
- hanniabu 5y ago
  Still not enough vaccinated for herd immunity. And considering the effectiveness of the vaccine drops from ~95% to ~65% 6 months after (around more for a majority of people) then it's looking further from all clear.
  - rhino369 5y ago
    We were vaccinated enough for heard immunity from the original variants. That’s why infections were cratering even in places with no social distancing rules. Delta variant is probably going to change that. Some parts of the country will have a delta wave. But it’s going to be mostly in vaccinated people with serious infections.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  Do we have enough supplies of those vaccines yet, worldwide? Have we vaccinated sufficient people yet, worldwide? Sadly, no and no. Even in many US states it's also not enough yet. And many countries must be looking at their situation regarding vaccine production in general, particularly dependency on other countries, and finding that to be something that they want to secure for themselves. > for vaccinated persons means the virus is no longer a threat I would call it a much diminished threat, which would be further diminished by vaccinating more other people, rather than "no threat".
maxerickson 5y ago
Outside the northeast, US states are barely above 50%. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-r... (link says march-15, page is updated through July 8)
- rhino369 5y ago
  You can probably add another 15%-20% from recovered immunity.