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But the old people are now all vaccinated so they won't get it or at least won't get really sick. I'm sure some will but a lot of the risk has been mitigated. T
by GekkePrutser 5y ago
But the old people are now all vaccinated so they won't get it or at least won't get really sick. I'm sure some will but a lot of the risk has been mitigated. There will always have to be some measure of risk we have to accept. We can't eliminate it completely.
I'm a bit worried that because of a year and a half of mass fear even the slightest risk of covid will be blown up.
I saw this effect here in Barcelona. There was an article on young people thinking they could not get covid. And an ICU nurse was quoted saying that's not true and they have a girl there who is bad.
But this doesn't take into account that the numbers are so low. Many young people die because of traffic accidents and the like. There has to be a point where we say it's mitigated enough and just move on with life.
I'm not saying we're there yet but we should start talking about where that point is.
- wussboy 5y agoI agree that it’s time we started putting COVID risks in to perspective. Yes, the Delta variant is more transmissible that regular. But to a fully vaccinated person, is it more or less of a concern now than automobile accidents or other viruses?
- hanniabu 5y agoUntil there's more data on the long term effects and what we've heard so far of the long term effects, and then adding in the drop in vaccine effectiveness and new variants and the lower vaccine effectiveness against those variants, I'm going to continue to be cautious and concerned with all the handwaving and "it's over" rhetoric.
- throwawaysea 5y agoWhy isn’t the same caution exercised when it comes to the long term effects of lockdowns and mask mandates on children, adults’ mental health, the economy, etc?
- wussboy 5y ago#whataboutism
- GekkePrutser 5y agoIt's not really whataboutism IMO because these are 2 sides of the same coin. One balances the other. Whataboutism applies to unrelated topics.
- danenania 5y agoAll the fear, isolation, and disruption to their normal lives has also had a very negative psychological impact on kids. I've seen many who are clearly developing phobias and anxiety issues. The rare and hypothetical long term risks of covid to children (and the mild risks to vaccinated adults) need to be balanced against these ubiquitous and very non-hypothetical adverse psychological effects. On a population level, I believe the evidence points to there being far more risk in the latter. A society that sacrifices the psychological wellbeing of its children to prevent moderate illness in adults has really screwed up its priorities, and that's increasingly the situation in places where the most at-risk have been vaccinated.
- alibarber 5y agoAt some point last year I read an article, probably in the Guardian, about what school was like at the time (when it was open) for the kids. Not allowed their own toys, forced to stand on markers on the ground, not allowed to mix with their friends or just play in the dirt and be, y’know, kids. I don’t have children, but I really started to question whether it was worth it - the poor things.
- blacktriangle 5y agoIt wasn't worth it.
- alibarber 5y agoHonestly - I have to agree with you, no matter how unpopular an opinion that is. I got to watch my elderly relatives die long before COVID was a thing, which was of course very sad. But no one tried to take my childhood away to prevent it (which it wouldn’t have anyway) - like what seems to be happening now to some extent.
- lclarkmichalek 5y agoDoesn’t sound too dissimilar to schools before the pandemic. They weren’t exactly libertarian paradises