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It seems like you "won" because you kept your job, living in a rural area and being introverted was just a side bonus.

jdkdkfmdm 5y ago
Yeah it also seems like he didn't give in to the fear and went about his life as best as he could. He went to the dentist early in lockdowns. My social circle would've cast you out for that and it is for sure a smaller circle than it was in March 2020 because of media provided moral imperatives that if you didn't follow week to week, you were no better than a Republican Actually, it eventually made me Republican.
- Clubber 5y ago
  Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. Lock down and a lot of your businesses no longer exist. Hopefully we're done with it for the next 100 years.
  - bmeski 5y ago
    The next “thing” will happen in 20 years. 9/11 -> Covid -> (whatever 2040 cooks up for us to make sure the next generation lives in fear)
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - tester756 5y ago
      OPs right, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Chronology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Chronology
      - detaro 5y ago
        > wtf is with downvotes of this comment? It clearly has nothing to do with epidemics, so what's your link supposed to prove?
  - jMyles 5y ago
    > Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. I can't tell whether this is sarcasm, but in the unlikely event that it's not, how do you explain every place that didn't lockdown having dramatically better numbers than NYC? Surely there's no remaining possibility of regarding lockdowns as a success? What data can possibly conclude this experiment if not the data which already exists?
    - christkv 5y ago
      Overuse of ventilators in the first wave probably killed a ton more people than expected. Once they dialed back ventilator use and established cortison treatments and normal oxygen instead death rates lowered.
      - mandelbrotwurst 5y ago
        How did ventilators kill people?
        redis_mlc 5y ago
        Ventilators: - are intended for use for a few days, not a few weeks. The artificial air pressure destroys lung cells and capillaries - patients are sedated to avoid pulling out tubes. This weakens both their lung function and the rest of their body due to immobilization, including bed sores. Usually their trachea is damaged and they cannot talk after removing the tubes for a period of time, and must do physical rehabilitation afterwards. - doctors and nurses consider patients on ventilators the sickest in the hospital, followed by recent ventilator patients - being in a hospital for a month or more exposes patients to other infections, which are not immediately apparent in a sedated patient - China warned about ventilator use being usually unproductive with corona very early in 2020, so it took a while for US doctors to understand that the low oxygen levels measured in corona patients was not a critical thing in most cases if they could still breathe on their own. ER doctors are not researchers, so they follow previous recommendations until told otherwise.
        jMyles 5y ago

Yeah it also seems like he didn't give in to the fear and went about his life as best as he could. He went to the dentist early in lockdowns. My social circle would've cast you out for that and it is for sure a smaller circle than it was in March 2020 because of media provided moral imperatives that if you didn't follow week to week, you were no better than a Republican Actually, it eventually made me Republican.

Clubber 5y ago
Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. Lock down and a lot of your businesses no longer exist. Hopefully we're done with it for the next 100 years.
- bmeski 5y ago
  The next “thing” will happen in 20 years. 9/11 -> Covid -> (whatever 2040 cooks up for us to make sure the next generation lives in fear)
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - tester756 5y ago
    OPs right, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Chronology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Chronology
    - detaro 5y ago
      > wtf is with downvotes of this comment? It clearly has nothing to do with epidemics, so what's your link supposed to prove?
- jMyles 5y ago
  > Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. I can't tell whether this is sarcasm, but in the unlikely event that it's not, how do you explain every place that didn't lockdown having dramatically better numbers than NYC? Surely there's no remaining possibility of regarding lockdowns as a success? What data can possibly conclude this experiment if not the data which already exists?
  - christkv 5y ago
    Overuse of ventilators in the first wave probably killed a ton more people than expected. Once they dialed back ventilator use and established cortison treatments and normal oxygen instead death rates lowered.
    - mandelbrotwurst 5y ago
      How did ventilators kill people?
      - redis_mlc 5y ago
        Ventilators: - are intended for use for a few days, not a few weeks. The artificial air pressure destroys lung cells and capillaries - patients are sedated to avoid pulling out tubes. This weakens both their lung function and the rest of their body due to immobilization, including bed sores. Usually their trachea is damaged and they cannot talk after removing the tubes for a period of time, and must do physical rehabilitation afterwards. - doctors and nurses consider patients on ventilators the sickest in the hospital, followed by recent ventilator patients - being in a hospital for a month or more exposes patients to other infections, which are not immediately apparent in a sedated patient - China warned about ventilator use being usually unproductive with corona very early in 2020, so it took a while for US doctors to understand that the low oxygen levels measured in corona patients was not a critical thing in most cases if they could still breathe on their own. ER doctors are not researchers, so they follow previous recommendations until told otherwise.
      - jMyles 5y ago