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The video just freaked me out, because it is unbelievably similar to LSD trip experience (not a bad trip) I had in a very long past.
by neatze 5y ago
The video just freaked me out, because it is unbelievably similar to LSD trip experience (not a bad trip) I had in a very long past.
- Tenoke 5y agoWhat dosage are you taking to see that? I've never seen anything close to it.
- zanethomas 5y agotake more <g>
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- gavinray 5y agoAnything upwards of: - 300-400ug of LSD - 6-9g of mushrooms or 25mg 4-AcO-DMT - ~22mg of 2C-B/2C-E/2C-I - Nearly any amount of DMT or 5-MeO-DMT And a bunch of others will do this. Psychedelics are all unique feeling but the further you push the doses the more similar they become. At the furthest edge of the spectrum is the "grand psychedelic experience" which, in my incredibly unscientific & anecdotal opinion, is an (nearly) identical experience that you will reach every time, on any psychedelic, given the right circumstances and a high enough dosage. But this experience is just the "Can't see my hand in front of my face because of the visuals" level. You pass this level on the way to the last stop, if you take the ride all the way to end (whether you meant to take it there or not!)
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- whimsicalism 5y agolol this doesn't match my experience on acid at all. far too rigid/straight line-y
- gavinray 5y agoYeah, this is something I've consistently noticed + also been very weirded out by, with "What a neural network sees"/"Neural network image synthesis" pictures. Many of them are eerily similar to the visual phenomena I've experienced on various psychedelics. To the point where you don't really have a choice but to recognize that there's some mathematic/scientific explanation of consciousness and the way psychedelics interact with it that relate to how neural networks function. I'm far too dumb to put those pieces together but I'd believe whatever someone more intelligent put in front of me. Wish it were possible to show other people what these kinds of experiences look/feel like, our language and vocabulary obviously don't have terms for most of it. Seeing impossible colors or shapes, or being/existing in multiple points in space + time simultaneously, as different creatures or people, in different places. It can shake you to your core by challenging what you always assumed were fundamental givens of the universe and "the way things work" (TM).
- whatshisface 5y agoScientific explanations of perception =/= scientific explanations of consciousness.
- Igelau 5y agoIsn't consciousness a perception?
- mhh__ 5y agoI think an issue here is that I know what NN outputs look like and have some folk intuition as to what psychedelics to do my brain, so I end up seeing what I want to see.
- sneak 5y ago> To the point where you don't really have a choice but to recognize that there's some mathematic/scientific explanation of consciousness and the way psychedelics interact with it that relate to how neural networks function. I don't get any of these types of visuals (or any visuals whatsoever other than wobbling/throbbing edges/borders) on most of the common psychedelics on which most normal people get visuals, even at 2-10x standard doses. I'm aware of the stereotypical wooshy GAN-style trailer visuals people report; I've never seen them. Either I'm an alien or your hypothesis has a hole.
- edem 5y agoHow much was that? 1200ug?