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Beware governmental efforts to "enliven" dying cultures: In Soviet Russia they tried to promote minority languages with rubles and quickly those organizations w

Beware governmental efforts to "enliven" dying cultures: In Soviet Russia they tried to promote minority languages with rubles and quickly those organizations were occupied with creeps had nothing to do with minorities. When asked, this minority culture was their "hobby" and they were "busy" studying the language. This was starkly revealed, when in 1990 Finland invited certain Finnic minorities to move in. They were hired by Nokia for example and it was scary to watch, most of those Ivans had nothing to with Finland, they were swarthy Cossacks with no language skills. And now Finland has 30 000 Russian minority, who consider themselves Russians with their own schools and churches and shit.

antisthenes 5y ago
> They were hired by Nokia for example and it was scary to watch, most of those Ivans had nothing to with Finland, they were swarthy Cossacks with no language skills. And now Finland has 30 000 Russian minority, who consider themselves Russians with their own schools and churches and shit. This is a complete non-sequitur. You generally expect any neighboring countries to have ethnic minorities, especially in bordering territories, such as the Murmansk/St Petersburg regions and Finland. Are you implying that somehow this community of Russian people in Finland exists exclusively because they somehow "scammed" their way into the country by pretending to know a language? I find it fairly hard to believe that Nokia would hire "swarthy Cossacks with no language skills" and frankly your tone is pretty offensive towards what seems to be benign immigration.
- ArnoVW 5y ago
  Perhaps you are already aware, but if not: one of the tricks in the Russian playbook is to build an ethnic group within their neighbours, as a way of annexing parts. Krimea for example was 'liberated' in 2014 from the yoke of Ukrainian oppression by Russian-ethnic groups, and 'spontaneously attached itself to Russia'. The 'rebels' all had uniforms, no insignias but SIGINT has analysed the names of the people talking over the radio and many were Russian army officers. Imagine Mexico organizing radio talkshows and political groups for Mexicans to liberate themselves from the Gringo oppression. They demand that the official language be Mexican. That Mexican history be thought in school. More and more the mexicans in California are unhappy. Until one day there is a 'rebellion'. And the Mexican state 'generously comes to the aid of their poor opressed brethern' Seen in that light, does the POV of GP make more sense?

antisthenes 5y ago

> They were hired by Nokia for example and it was scary to watch, most of those Ivans had nothing to with Finland, they were swarthy Cossacks with no language skills. And now Finland has 30 000 Russian minority, who consider themselves Russians with their own schools and churches and shit. This is a complete non-sequitur. You generally expect any neighboring countries to have ethnic minorities, especially in bordering territories, such as the Murmansk/St Petersburg regions and Finland. Are you implying that somehow this community of Russian people in Finland exists exclusively because they somehow "scammed" their way into the country by pretending to know a language? I find it fairly hard to believe that Nokia would hire "swarthy Cossacks with no language skills" and frankly your tone is pretty offensive towards what seems to be benign immigration.

ArnoVW 5y ago
Perhaps you are already aware, but if not: one of the tricks in the Russian playbook is to build an ethnic group within their neighbours, as a way of annexing parts. Krimea for example was 'liberated' in 2014 from the yoke of Ukrainian oppression by Russian-ethnic groups, and 'spontaneously attached itself to Russia'. The 'rebels' all had uniforms, no insignias but SIGINT has analysed the names of the people talking over the radio and many were Russian army officers. Imagine Mexico organizing radio talkshows and political groups for Mexicans to liberate themselves from the Gringo oppression. They demand that the official language be Mexican. That Mexican history be thought in school. More and more the mexicans in California are unhappy. Until one day there is a 'rebellion'. And the Mexican state 'generously comes to the aid of their poor opressed brethern' Seen in that light, does the POV of GP make more sense?