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Hottest Temperature Ever – A Crazy Year of Weather
- robbiet480 5y agoA few hours ago, the National Weather Service Las Vegas bureau reported a new high temperature record for Death Valley (although not yet verified by NWS): 130 F/54.4 C [1]. They project it will be even hotter over the next 48 hours. [1]: https://twitter.com/nwsvegas/status/1413659717126160390?s=21 https://twitter.com/nwsvegas/status/1413659717126160390?s=21
- jobigoud 5y agoSo is the 134°F from 1934 in the OP officially discarded as a instrument error?
- ipnon 5y agoChildren will rarely know comfortable summers.
- throwawayboise 5y agoHere in the midwest USA I'm enjoying an unseasonably cool 63 degrees F right now. Windows open, about to go to bed. Haven't run the AC in over a week.
- peakaboo 5y agoChildren won't know a life with privacy. They won't be able to decide if they are going to vaccinate or not either.
- crooked-v 5y ago> They won't be able to decide if they are going to vaccinate or not either. That's already how it works. The overwhelming majority of children in first-world countries are given a slate of vaccinations as a matter of course. Or did you think that polio went away on its own?
- imwillofficial 5y agoLol it’s funny you mention polio. I was reviewing the data and it had pretty much gone away in its own before the vaccine was in widespread use.
- emoII 5y agoPlease link to a valid source if you're going to make such statements
- imwillofficial 5y agoYeah let me try to dig it up.
- CorrectHorseBat 5y agoFamous last words... Please don't spread misinformation about one of the most successful vaccination campaigns that saved thousands of people per year from being crippled or dead. And especially not during another pandemic in which there already is enough misinformation about vaccines.
- mkbkn 5y agoCan you share the data or your findings please? From what I see, the situation is the same in India - hardly any vaccination and the big 'C' cases have gone down significantly.
- lrem 5y agoChildren never had this choice. Their parents do in some places. But in most of the world the choice is nominal, because proper portfolio of vaccinations is a precondition to education, healthcare and travel.
- s5300 5y agoAside from the fact children are already given loads of vaccinations, there's much worse things they don't get to decide, like having part of their dick cut off shortly after birth. Also, in some traditions, having an old dude suck on their dick after having said portion cut off. Your arguments are... quite weak. Some children also don't get to decide if they're going to get forcefully sent to a camp/hospital where they literally shock you, repeatedly, which is incredibly painful, in an attempt to change something about you. Or, once upon a time, not too long ago, give you a lobotomy with an ice pick. If only people fought for all of these things, which are quite detrimental, instead of vaccines, which are quite beneficial. Also... if the world goes to shit because of the climate, it's highly likely we (in the US) may begin to see some mandatory military service. Guess how many vaccines you get to get there, some of them pneumatically shot in to you... Humanity will never know peace.
- mkbkn 5y ago> Also, in some traditions, having an old dude suck on their dick after having said portion cut off. Curious to know which culture is that?
- chaosite 5y agoIt's a rather crass phrasing of it, but GP is referring to Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Metzitzah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Metzitzah
- esperent 5y agoIt's a extremely crass act so I'd say that crass phrasing is apt.
- s5300 5y agohttps://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/safe-bris.page https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/safe-bris... There's been a case in and out of the news for the last decade or so(?) of one specific practicioner knowingly giving something like over 100 kids a pretty serious infection/STD. Shouldn't be hard to find on the googler.
- undfg 5y agoIsn't hn the website that generally laughs at the "won't someone think of the children" argument?
- daptaq 5y agoRecognizing that the argument can be abused doesn't mean you shouldn't just ignore children alltogether.
- undfg 5y agoIn other words, "it's a bad argument but it's okay to use it to push liberal causes"
- hnra 5y agoClimate change is liberal? I wonder where the standard model of physics lies on the political spectrum…
- Aeolos 5y agoGlobal Warming is not, and should not be a partisan issue. Unfortunately, decades of Exxon Mobil propaganda[1][2] have brainwashed millions of people all over the world, which has caused this to become strongly politicized. History will not look kindly upon them and those who towed that line of lies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_cont... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/28/business/exxon-backs-groups-that-question-global-warming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/28/business/exxon-backs-grou... Edit: I fully agree with what you said, I just wanted to leave this here to shed some light on what is actually happening and why we’ve reached this point.
- refurb 5y agoExactly. All those Canadians complaining when it gets over 20C are going to suffer.
- jacobajit 5y agoThere is in fact significant doubt among climatologists as to the veracity of this record. While the 1913 hot spell was certainly significant, all recorded weather information at the time from surrounding locations, in combination with the dynamics of local microclimates, imply that the 134 degree reading was "essentially not possible from a meteorological perspective." [1] Observer error stands to be the most plausible explanation, implying that the the recent 130 degree reading in Death Valley may actually become the location's, and the world's, hottest verified temperature.[2] [1] https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-invest... [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/09/death-valley-record-high-temperature/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/09/death-vall...
- austincheney 5y agoAs far as I know that number, 134F, is not considered accurate. The trusted number is just over 129F (129.2F) where Death Valley and Kuwait City are recently tied. This is only the hottest place where people live though. The actual hottest place is the Danakil Depression of Ethiopia. The air is toxic around the hot springs due to high sulfur content and so almost nothing lives there except pools of exotic bacteria.
- bloniac 5y agoMaybe it’s a “once in a century” event. That’s what the media likes to say.
- ianai 5y agoI hate heat. Maybe a Dune style still suit would help it. But after a decade in LV, if I could arrange to never see such heat again it’d be too late. I’m truly surprised though with how widespread high temps are this year.
- einrealist 5y agoMe too. I always say: You can wear warm outfit, but you can't strip cold.
- peterburkimsher 5y agoHow about a jacket with air conditioning? https://wonderfulengineering.com/japanese-invent-a-jacket-with-air-conditioner/ https://wonderfulengineering.com/japanese-invent-a-jacket-wi...
- hyperpallium2 5y agoInvest in Antarctic real estate! It's not a catastrophe, it's opportunity! (albeit however short-lived)
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- roenxi 5y agoMaybe I haven't made enough enemies today. I've been persistently arguing for years that climate change is simply a minor threat. 2020 may continue the trend of being the hottest year on record, and that will be completely dwarfed by both the damage from the coronavirus, the threat of overpopulation and the benefits of economic growth (powered by fossil fuels) in Asia. We might be facing a new war to end all wars in the South China sea. This is being driven by technology and equalisation of the worlds great powers more than by climate. The climate emergency people are going to have to keep struggling to argue that the emergency here is the temperature rise. The evidence remains that running out of fossil fuels is a bigger threat to humanity's comfort than using them. At the timescales being talked about moving cities as a one-off thing if any problems become imminent is an entirely reasonable plan. Shenzhen was built in 40 years.
- quickthrower2 5y agoDon’t running out of fossil fuels and combating climate change have overlapping solutions anyway? Also not just temperature increases but more weather unpredictability. Impact on food supply and for many people impact on shelter. Basic life necessities. Coronavirus and wars might be a walk in the park by comparison as much as I hate to say that as it sounds callous
- Applejinx 5y ago>more weather unpredictability That's the one to watch. I don't think your estimate is out of line, even if 'compared to wars, this is a walk in the park' is seemingly inflammatory. Climate is a giant chaotic system. It gets more violent as the base energy put into it, increases. This is not linear. How nonlinear? We'll see. Our experience with catastrophic weather emergencies is the human-facing side of this chaotic system. The amount of energy vented by the atmosphere during these events is comparable to the destruction inflicted by wars… but the climate doesn't run out of bombs, or declare peace. It's a completely mindless thing that follows general heuristics which outline the extent of expected responses out of the chaotic, nondeterministic system… and we are in the process of redefining what these heuristics mean. While, at the same time, climate is in the process of rapidly altering these definitions out from under us. We're gonna be seeing city-flattening weather events way sooner and more often than we see sustained wet-bulb temperatures inimical to life in populated areas. Our whole understanding of surviving on this planet will get redefined, first slowly and then rapidly. We as a species will be able to do this and will survive, but it's a big deal and comparable to colonizing other planets.
- timonoko 5y agoOne and only problem is that you cannot travel too much because of Covid. I would go to Norway Nordkapp and enjoy the all-year-round 10°C, but I have to sneak in and maybe end up in Norwegian Jail. But they probably have AC and Internet, so is not a bad option either.
- trhway 5y agogo Svalbard, a visa free territory of Norway.
- timonoko 5y agoThat is not a bad idea at all. I could maybe travel via Russia, if cannot enter Norway.
- jobigoud 5y agoI'm pretty sure you can only enter Svalbard from Norway, that's why it's visa free. And unlike mainland Norway it's not in Schengen so you'll need a passport in, and also when coming back to Norway entering Schengen.
- trhway 5y agoNo, entering from Russia is easier precisely because it doesn't require visa that way. You'd need passport though.
- jobigoud 5y ago> all-year-round 10°C Based on the Wikipedia page they have negative average temperature for 4 month a year. 10°C is the peak in summer.
- ostenning 5y agoI suspect in the next 5 years we will see these extreme events normalized, but as a result the governments around the world will begin acting & passing quite extreme laws to try to mitigate the problems we face. Climate change, ecological collapse etc in the last couple of years has only really just began to strike home and it will make COVID look a walk in the park. Massive amounts of spending will be aligned to green technologies, carbon capture, re-plantations etc and a divestment in things that make no sense will take hold. Engineers will stop wasting their time developing pointless products and dedicate energy into real-world applications that can help humanity keep the world as we know it. It will be every sentient beings responsibility to fight for the environment, or we will lose it, and, if we get caught up fighting ourselves, we very may lose it all.