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Im seeing a lot of news lately about record heat waves. Presumably this has been happening for a few years now though although I’m not sure where i could get ac

by bogota 5y ago

Im seeing a lot of news lately about record heat waves. Presumably this has been happening for a few years now though although I’m not sure where i could get accurate info on that. Did the media just start pushing this to the from because its now a hot button issue that is selling more clicks? Not saying its bad if it helps us take more action against global warming its likely good. But I’m still curious.

bwship 5y ago
I think these are some of the highest recorded temps, like in Seattle and Portland ever. And it being July, if it is hitting record temps in California, Nevada and Arizona, then it might be a bit hotter than in years past.
owl_troupe 5y ago
It’s not just a presumption and it isn’t media just “pushing this.” https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ > Nineteen of the warmest years have occurred since 2000, with the exception of 1998. The year 2020 tied with 2016 for the warmest year on record since record-keeping began in 1880 (source: NASA/GISS). This research is broadly consistent with similar constructions prepared by the Climatic Research Unit and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
- bogota 5y ago
  You and others have not read my comment correctly. I know this is the case. Im asking why right now it is always on the front page all of a sudden and am simply asking if this is because the frequency has increased or is because its now profitable to print. But from your own link it is the media pushing this now. Because this was really never something you saw in the news before but all of the sudden you see it ever other day.
  - PhasmaFelis 5y ago
    > Im asking why right now it is always on the front page all of a sudden I've been seeing news reports on continuous heat-record-breaking for at least ten years. Perhaps you haven't been reading decent science news until recently. But one would also expect reporting on a problem to increase as the problem gets worse, yes?
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DoreenMichele 5y ago
I'm generally pretty cynical about the news being a lot of click-bait, histrionic garbage. But in this case, the trend in reporting record-breaking heat waves seems to be rooted in the actual occurrence of record-breaking heat waves.
- hattmall 5y ago
  Isn't it strange how we keep breaking records, not just in hot but also cold, and in sports as well. I wonder what records will truly be unbroken. Perhaps the tallest person as we are able to stop the error that causes unchecked growth.
  - DoreenMichele 5y ago
    Isn't it strange how we keep breaking records Nope. We tend to report on the records that get broken. With only one exception, the news generally doesn't go around saying "And another day of the status quo. Here are all the records that stood today without being broken. Here is everything that went unchanged." That one exception that I'm aware of was when some reporter decided he didn't want a hostage situation forgotten and he began starting all of his reports with "Day xxx of the Iran Hostage crisis..." in order to have something "new" to say about it every single day and not let the public forget there were American hostages still in captivity. I have heard this annoyed the fool out of the American government and forced them to actually deal with it and not let it get quietly forgotten as such things tend to get.
    - rgbrenner 5y ago
      That's really the only explanation for hattmall's perception of cold records being broken... because winters are actually getting warmer, and the number of record cold temperatures is lower than it has typically been in the past: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/warming-winters-across-united-states https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/warm... I would add also that we now read news from all over. Instead of counting the number of local temperature events... we now count the number of temperature events from all over (the entire country, if not the world) because that's what the news presents to us. So we might perceive an increase in events, while in reality it has decreased. As such is the case in cold temperature records.
xbmcuser 5y ago
Its both last few years a lot of temperature records have been broken. It is also being talked about a lot more as western countries have been feeling the rise directly with the extreme heatwave in Europe 2-3 years ago, then Australia with the bush fires and now North America this year. Previously the sea water rise and global warming though they might have believed it was just a theory to most they had not felt the direct effects.
PhasmaFelis 5y ago
We've been breaking heat records all over the world every year for the past two decades. This isn't new at all.

by bogota 5y ago

bwship 5y ago

I think these are some of the highest recorded temps, like in Seattle and Portland ever. And it being July, if it is hitting record temps in California, Nevada and Arizona, then it might be a bit hotter than in years past.

owl_troupe 5y ago

It’s not just a presumption and it isn’t media just “pushing this.” https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ > Nineteen of the warmest years have occurred since 2000, with the exception of 1998. The year 2020 tied with 2016 for the warmest year on record since record-keeping began in 1880 (source: NASA/GISS). This research is broadly consistent with similar constructions prepared by the Climatic Research Unit and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

bogota 5y ago
You and others have not read my comment correctly. I know this is the case. Im asking why right now it is always on the front page all of a sudden and am simply asking if this is because the frequency has increased or is because its now profitable to print. But from your own link it is the media pushing this now. Because this was really never something you saw in the news before but all of the sudden you see it ever other day.
- PhasmaFelis 5y ago
  > Im asking why right now it is always on the front page all of a sudden I've been seeing news reports on continuous heat-record-breaking for at least ten years. Perhaps you haven't been reading decent science news until recently. But one would also expect reporting on a problem to increase as the problem gets worse, yes?
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DoreenMichele 5y ago

I'm generally pretty cynical about the news being a lot of click-bait, histrionic garbage. But in this case, the trend in reporting record-breaking heat waves seems to be rooted in the actual occurrence of record-breaking heat waves.

hattmall 5y ago
Isn't it strange how we keep breaking records, not just in hot but also cold, and in sports as well. I wonder what records will truly be unbroken. Perhaps the tallest person as we are able to stop the error that causes unchecked growth.
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  Isn't it strange how we keep breaking records Nope. We tend to report on the records that get broken. With only one exception, the news generally doesn't go around saying "And another day of the status quo. Here are all the records that stood today without being broken. Here is everything that went unchanged." That one exception that I'm aware of was when some reporter decided he didn't want a hostage situation forgotten and he began starting all of his reports with "Day xxx of the Iran Hostage crisis..." in order to have something "new" to say about it every single day and not let the public forget there were American hostages still in captivity. I have heard this annoyed the fool out of the American government and forced them to actually deal with it and not let it get quietly forgotten as such things tend to get.
  - rgbrenner 5y ago
    That's really the only explanation for hattmall's perception of cold records being broken... because winters are actually getting warmer, and the number of record cold temperatures is lower than it has typically been in the past: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/warming-winters-across-united-states https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/warm... I would add also that we now read news from all over. Instead of counting the number of local temperature events... we now count the number of temperature events from all over (the entire country, if not the world) because that's what the news presents to us. So we might perceive an increase in events, while in reality it has decreased. As such is the case in cold temperature records.

xbmcuser 5y ago

Its both last few years a lot of temperature records have been broken. It is also being talked about a lot more as western countries have been feeling the rise directly with the extreme heatwave in Europe 2-3 years ago, then Australia with the bush fires and now North America this year. Previously the sea water rise and global warming though they might have believed it was just a theory to most they had not felt the direct effects.

PhasmaFelis 5y ago

We've been breaking heat records all over the world every year for the past two decades. This isn't new at all.