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The submitted article is a flame war against non-developers and promotes the same attitude in the workplace. Other people have jobs too. It's condescends :

by doublejay1999 5y ago

The submitted article is a flame war against non-developers and promotes the same attitude in the workplace. Other people have jobs too. It's condescends : "Your non-techie peers just don’t get it, no matter how many times you try to make them understand." Demeans : "Tell him that you bet him lunch he can’t get it done in five minutes, only getting one shot at getting the answer right. Maybe he’ll stop laughing and get to work." ..and insults : "complete with ridiculous buzzword BS bingo and sports metaphors about “closing out the game in the endzone” or something. By the time the dust settles and you’ve been Six-Sigma-ed into submission by 3rd degree black belts", As long as HN keep accepting such submissions, I'll keep giving them the treatment they deserve, which I think is fair.

dang 5y ago
Whether that's true or not, you (i.e. everyone here) need to follow the rules whether someone else is breaking them or not. Any other approach guarantees a downward spiral, because it always feels like the other person started it. To put it in terms that many will remember from their mothers: two wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps you don't the article author (or whoever the other person may be) any better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- doublejay1999 5y ago
  The nature of the article is hardly in question. It is the headline, and purpose of the piece. My best advice would be to apply your vigilance to submissions as diligently as you do to the comments, nipping it in the bud, as it were. That's what I'd do, if I was interested in maintaining standards as your profess to be.
  - dang 5y ago
    That's not how it works here. How it works is that users need to control themselves under provocation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - doublejay1999 5y ago
      > How it works is that users need to control themselves under provocation. then do so, my friend. then do so.

dang 5y ago

Whether that's true or not, you (i.e. everyone here) need to follow the rules whether someone else is breaking them or not. Any other approach guarantees a downward spiral, because it always feels like the other person started it. To put it in terms that many will remember from their mothers: two wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps you don't the article author (or whoever the other person may be) any better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

doublejay1999 5y ago
The nature of the article is hardly in question. It is the headline, and purpose of the piece. My best advice would be to apply your vigilance to submissions as diligently as you do to the comments, nipping it in the bud, as it were. That's what I'd do, if I was interested in maintaining standards as your profess to be.
- dang 5y ago
  That's not how it works here. How it works is that users need to control themselves under provocation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - doublejay1999 5y ago
    > How it works is that users need to control themselves under provocation. then do so, my friend. then do so.